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re: To bring the Iran problem to an end is relatively simple....
Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:18 pm to coachcrisp
Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:18 pm to coachcrisp
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bring the Iran problem to an end is relatively simple.
You seem to be ignoring the persistent threat of Iran's ballistic missles, drone fleet, and that of their proxies in the region represent to the oil and energy infrastructure of.the GCC states. Are you factoring in wide spread destruction of critcal infrastructure in those states as well when ypu speak of how simple this problem is to solve.....because the Trump administration sure as hell didn't and that is why he keeps backing off and essentially why we are in this mess.
This post was edited on 8/7/26 at 7:20 pm
Posted on 8/8/26 at 12:35 pm to ThuperThumpin
quote:1) Iran doesn't have weapons to stop the events I suggested.
You seem to be ignoring the persistent threat of Iran's ballistic missles, drone fleet, and that of their proxies in the region represent to the oil and energy infrastructure of.the GCC states. Are you factoring in wide spread destruction of critcal infrastructure in those states as well when ypu speak of how simple this problem is to solve.....because the Trump administration sure as hell didn't and that is why he keeps backing off and essentially why we are in this mess.
2) The oil and energy infrastructure of the GCC states can/will be protected by themselves with our help and weaponry.
3) I didn't say that solving the problem was going to be simple, but the method of operation is.
Look, nothing about bringing this to a favorably easy conclusion is possible, but if we want to achieve the potential goals we've set out, hell, we're already more than 1/2 way there, and if we do, the world will be a much better and safe place in the future. JMO
Posted on 8/8/26 at 1:32 pm to coachcrisp
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and all the major means of supplying food for the population..
They have what they need stored underground and deep in the mountains...do they care about the persian population?...doubtful. They're killing all those that don't agree with them...some 40k so far?
Posted on 8/8/26 at 3:41 pm to Salviati
Iran is 1/3 the size of our state known as Alaska.
Posted on 8/8/26 at 3:55 pm to coachcrisp
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Destroy (bomb) any means of transportation (railroads, bridges, and highways)), their ability to generate power (power plants of all types), and all the major means of supplying food for the population......then step back and let it all collapse.
That would result in cartels - mostly the IRGC - turning to warlordism and piracy. That would make the SOH a crapshoot.
Posted on 8/8/26 at 4:00 pm to beachdude
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Seize Kharg Island, shut down Iran’s oil industry
There is no reason to go through the risks of seizing Kharg Island. We have shutdown their oil industry by blockading the SOH.
Posted on 8/8/26 at 4:10 pm to Penrod
But Kharg Island would provide something of a “home base” in the immediate area, for specific future purposes of “regulating” the strait as necessary; in addition to the benefit of stemming the flow of Iranian illicit oil sales/exports, to the extent to which it would be an advantage for us in that regard. The island certainly is of quite significant importance, being the most major or “main” oil transport hubs for Iran.
Posted on 8/8/26 at 4:15 pm to davyjones
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But Kharg Island would provide something of a “home base” in the immediate area, for specific future purposes of “regulating” the strait as necessary
Look at a map. Kharg Island is far from the Strait. We currently have military bases closer to the Strait than Kharg Island.
Posted on 8/8/26 at 4:30 pm to Penrod
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We currently have military bases closer to the Strait than Kharg Island.
That may be true, but already having use of any such islands is a bit different than seizing a key location, on multiple reasons if you’re Iran, I’m sure), and let’s not look too quickly past the point that Iran itself clearly felt it was of some importance and benefit, militarily/terroristically (if I may), as well as oil/gas and resulting economic significance of oil/gas to that country. So it certainly doesn’t seem to be nothing.
Posted on 8/8/26 at 4:31 pm to Salviati
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Bombs are pretty expensive.
How do they pay for theirs
Posted on 8/8/26 at 5:02 pm to coachcrisp
I expect anytime now Iran will announce acquisition of a nuclear bomb, and the ICBM to deliver it. That was always the plan - the BOMB!
IMO that was always the purpose of this stalling, breaking the terms of the agreements.....stall, postpone, drone another oil tanker - stall, postpone, drone another oil tanker, wash, rinse, repeat. You keep energy prices high, plus you keep the cost of living high here - you create a no-win situation for President Trump.
Where Barook Hussein Obama and Joe Biden took the "give'um what they want - that'll shut'um up" approach by throwing money at them - President Trump took the bomb'um into surrender mode. Some would argue both plans are flawed.
My fear was always the possibility a rogue nation (like Iran) would acquire a nuclear bomb and the capability to deliver it. Up to now the only rogue nation I considered capable of pulling the nuclear trigger was North Korea.
But now the possibility of a radical Islamic regime (like Iran) armed with a nuclear bombs scares the heck out of me, honestly.
All it takes is one ICBM with a nuke tipped warhead on it................
That's why I spend my days praying to God he will NOT let this happen. You should too.
IMO that was always the purpose of this stalling, breaking the terms of the agreements.....stall, postpone, drone another oil tanker - stall, postpone, drone another oil tanker, wash, rinse, repeat. You keep energy prices high, plus you keep the cost of living high here - you create a no-win situation for President Trump.
Where Barook Hussein Obama and Joe Biden took the "give'um what they want - that'll shut'um up" approach by throwing money at them - President Trump took the bomb'um into surrender mode. Some would argue both plans are flawed.
My fear was always the possibility a rogue nation (like Iran) would acquire a nuclear bomb and the capability to deliver it. Up to now the only rogue nation I considered capable of pulling the nuclear trigger was North Korea.
But now the possibility of a radical Islamic regime (like Iran) armed with a nuclear bombs scares the heck out of me, honestly.
All it takes is one ICBM with a nuke tipped warhead on it................
That's why I spend my days praying to God he will NOT let this happen. You should too.
This post was edited on 8/8/26 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 8/8/26 at 5:03 pm to coachcrisp
Exactly, there’s no other way to deal with those people.
This post was edited on 8/8/26 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 8/8/26 at 6:00 pm to GeorgePaton
quote:Oh, I do,too!
But now the possibility of a radical Islamic regime (like Iran) armed with a nuclear bombs scares the heck out of me, honestly.
All it takes is one ICBM with a nuke tipped warhead on it................
That's why I spend my days praying to God he will NOT let this happen. You should too.
That's why my proposed solution seems to be the best approach. IMO.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 7:39 am to Timeoday
quote:No.
Iran is 1/3 the size of our state known as Alaska.
You're wrong.
You're not even close.
Alaska is slightly larger at 665,000 square miles compared to Iran at 636,000 square miles.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 8:09 am to Salviati
Exactly. So why did you leave it out when comparing it to the size of the USA?
Posted on 8/10/26 at 8:16 am to ChatGPT of LA
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How do they pay for theirs
Obama, Clinton, and Kerry always made sure they had plenty of dough.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 8:24 am to Ailsa
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They have what they need stored underground and deep in the mountains...do they care about the persian population?...doubtful. They're killing all those that don't agree with them...some 40k so far?
Extremists are in power and they will never capitulate. Iran’s governing system has demonstrated that regime survival takes precedence over the welfare of ordinary Iranians. The bigger mistake is confusing the Iranian regime with the Iranian people.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 8:46 am to Timeoday
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Iran is 1/3 the size of our state known as Alaska.
Why you post such stupid shite?
Posted on 8/10/26 at 8:58 am to coachcrisp
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2) The oil and energy infrastructure of the GCC states can/will be protected by themselves with our help and weaponry.
Even when our interceptor capacity was at its max we couldnt protect them from some strikes getting through. Iran chose for the most part not to target GCC infrastructure. Now that our interceptor stock pile is running low its even more precarious. Hell the Saudi's couldnt stop the Houthis from hitting a refinery a week or two ago.
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but if we want to achieve the potential goals we've set out, hell, we're already more than 1/2 way there, and if we do, the world will be a much better and safe place in the future. JMO
We could bomb Iran for the next 6-12 months and it probably would'nt break IRGC control.
Posted on 8/10/26 at 9:05 am to coachcrisp
Yeah, add $$$ to the price tag we will end up dropping at some point for infrastructure rebuilding.
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