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re: Tim Sheehy: "Pakistan appears to have won every engagement so far with Chinese technology"
Posted on 5/13/25 at 6:29 pm to John Barron
Posted on 5/13/25 at 6:29 pm to John Barron
And half this boards wants to continue to make them rich with poor trade agreements just because the media says tariffs are bad.
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Posted on 5/13/25 at 6:30 pm to John Barron
Yes. He is correct. The Pakees have won more engagements.
Lessons learned perhaps.
Don't use those platforms.
Lessons learned perhaps.
Don't use those platforms.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 6:40 pm to Seldom Seen
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All the more reason to keep them as an ally rather than making an enemy out of them.
It would appear you have already mentally accepted and welcomed your new CCP overlords.
Hopefully most Americans never come to share a such sentiment.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 6:42 pm to Great Plains Drifter
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It would appear you have already mentally accepted and welcomed your new CCP overlords.
Or he understands that trade lifts both sides and a nation with a billion consumers is worth the relationship.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 6:44 pm to NC_Tigah
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quote:The Rafale is widely considered a 4.5-generation fighter jet.Is it now?
Didn’t one just beat the F-22 in a dog fight?
Posted on 5/13/25 at 6:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Or he understands that trade lifts both sides and a nation with a billion consumers is worth the relationship.
Or if he understands it that way Roger he could have simply said it that way.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 6:55 pm to Seldom Seen
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All the more reason to keep them as an ally rather than making an enemy out of them.
My god dude. I hope you have a double joined back so you can look at the big gapping puss you have. They are not an ally and never will be. I am embarrassed that you are a US citizen.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:00 pm to John Barron
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India Rafale’s are 40 year old technology
The Rafale is old tech. A Grok statement that India’s variant has 2018 tech doesn’t change that. 6 years is a lifetime in this arena.
The central point being that nothing that happens in this conflict indicates anything about the West or China’s actual capabilities.
France, the US, China, Russia, Sweden, Japan, SK, and others have moved so far away past 2018 fighter tech that there’s nothing to compare. Pakistan and India are playing a game with hand-me-down toys.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:04 pm to John Barron
Good. Let our intelligence observe their technology actually working.
Chinese have had this advantage for decades watching us operate.
Like poker, you can’t figure out their weaknesses unless you watch them play.
Chinese have had this advantage for decades watching us operate.
Like poker, you can’t figure out their weaknesses unless you watch them play.
This post was edited on 5/13/25 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:09 pm to John Barron
China is a threat and our number 1 enemy. They are willing to steal what they can’t develop. Our #2 enemy is Russia, they are willing to lie and manipulate our citizens and use their industry to attack our interests and allies. North Korea and Iran also should be dealt with also they are lock step with our enemies.
All of the above the propaganda account John Barron has supported here.
All of the above the propaganda account John Barron has supported here.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:11 pm to John Barron
That what happens when you allow the Clinton’s to sell out our country!
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:15 pm to Indefatigable
Also, isn't the bulk of India's air force made up of Sukhoi's and MIGs? I know they have a bunch of Dassault Rafale's and some that they make on their own. Russian stuff is junk comparatively. Also Pakistan has French stuff as well as F16s along with some Chinese planes.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:21 pm to MorningWood
https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2023/10/30/philippine-fa-50ph-shot-down-f-22-raptor-on-the-right-turn/
Who hasn't.
War games dog fights are very different than actual combat.
Who hasn't.
War games dog fights are very different than actual combat.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:22 pm to John Barron
It could be the camel jockeys are better at war than the 711s
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:23 pm to John Barron
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When a former Navy Seal is telling you the Truth but you refuse to believe reality that shows who is actually fearful
I would be more concerned if a former naval aviator commented on it. A SEAL, like a Marine, would know good CAS assets. We know jack shite about about CAP and standoff.
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:31 pm to ABearsFanNMS
No fricking way manJohn China is serious.
This clown thinks China is unstoppable!
This clown thinks China is unstoppable!
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:37 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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RogerTheShrubber
Dumb bastard
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:38 pm to Indefatigable
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A Grok statement that India’s variant has 2018 tech doesn’t change that.
2018 technology and a 4.5 generation Fighter Jet is not 40 year old technology like you wrongfully claimed. Grok doesn't make statements. It takes factual information from other sources and summarizes it. Maybe you prefer the direct article
The Indian Air Force’s Rafales are built as F3-R-standard aircraft, but they come with some fascinating bespoke additions. A Dassault-owned, test-configured Rafale B with Indian-specific modifications started flying at Istres-Le Tubé in France in August 2018. It has progressively carried as many as 14 different Indian Air Force modifications to the baseline F3-R standard aircraft.
Indian Rafales feature an improved version of the Thales Front Sector Optronics (FSO) system, which includes SAGEM infra-red search-and-track (IRST). They also feature the Elbit Display and Sight Helmet (DASH), a modified radar altimeter for flying in mountainous terrain, plus a cold start engine capability for high-altitude airfield operations. They also include software modifications for the RBE2 active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar."
LINK
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:41 pm to John Barron
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Grok doesn't make statements. It takes factual information from other sources and summarizes it
Grok only knows data, it has no way to separate facts from fiction.
It also doesn't summarize, it predicts the next most likely word.
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The Indian Air Force’s Rafales are built as F3-R-standard aircraft, but they come with some fascinating bespoke additions. A Dassault-owned, test-configured Rafale B with Indian-specific modifications started flying at Istres-Le Tubé in France in August 2018. It has progressively carried as many as 14 different Indian Air Force modifications to the baseline F3-R standard aircraft.
Indian Rafales feature an improved version of the Thales Front Sector Optronics (FSO) system, which includes SAGEM infra-red search-and-track (IRST). They also feature the Elbit Display and Sight Helmet (DASH), a modified radar altimeter for flying in mountainous terrain, plus a cold start engine capability for high-altitude airfield operations. They also include software modifications for the RBE2 active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar."
I told you that days ago and you gave me shite for it.
I'm happy as long as the information is correct.
This post was edited on 5/13/25 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:41 pm to John Barron
You are an idiot.
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