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re: This is probably a dumb question, but why is Neo-Nazism considered right wing?
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:06 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:06 am to AggieHank86
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With all due respect, YOU are getting "anchored" to only one element of a multi-prong test for "fascism."
I'm talking about the governing part of fascism...as put into service by Benito Mussolini. And later mimicked worldwide.
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Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:08 am to td01241
I guess that came across wrong. I don’t think that the entirety of the parties are too far left or right, I just think that socially people think if you are republican that you are far right loon and all republicans think that Dems are far left loons. We need to tone it down as a country and get to helping the country instead of throwing stones at everyone for their party selection.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:10 am to DolphinDaddy
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I’m just trying to figure out how a political party that leans conservative (conservatism is derived from Christianity right?) has ended up with crazy neo nazi beliefs being stuck on it. Why can’t they be their own thing?
The tent poles of the Nazi party were
National pride and power
Commitment to traditional German lifestyle and fighting against perverse outsiders trying to change it
Advocacy of a strong military
Some very right wing views on race and unions.
Sound familiar?
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:11 am to DolphinDaddy
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Dems are far left loons.
Not true, only 2-3% of Dems are loons, the other 20% are puppets and the rest are bots on the twatter.
Most Republicans are that because there is no party that errs to individual liberty more than them...there is only an illusion of choice.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:12 am to DolphinDaddy
quote:I think it would be more accurate to say that "If you are a Far Right loon, you think that ALL Democrats are Far Left loons, and if you are a Far Left loon, you think that ALL Republicans are Far Right loons."
people think if you are republican that you are far right loon and all republicans think that Dems are far left loons
IRL, the sane 75% of each party understands that this is utter nonsense.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:14 am to AggieHank86
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the sane 75% of each party understands that this is utter nonsense.
'A compromise between food and poison is death.' ...Ayn Rand
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:14 am to SammyTiger
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National pride and power
Tempered hrough government control
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Commitment to traditional German lifestyle and fighting against perverse outsiders trying to change it
Through corporate control
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Advocacy of a strong military
Through constant conflict
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Some very right wing views on race and unions
Not even close to true...they wanted government controlled unions
Now who the frick does it sound like?
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:14 am to DolphinDaddy
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Didn’t we help defeat Hitler (nazi) under a conservative General.
FIFY
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:14 am to AggieHank86
I could agree with that, but then why do we allow the loons to run everything?
Both ways
Both ways
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:17 am to DolphinDaddy
FDR not conservative. Basicaly anyone alive in 1930s is not as progressive as the complete nuts are now.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:17 am to DolphinDaddy
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Didn’t we help defeat Hitler (nazi) under a conservative President?
Yes to the former, and no to the latter. Following WWII, sociologists increasingly assigned political groups on a one-dimensional, right-left, linear scale. The left extreme was communism. Logically, the right limit would be anarcho-libertarianism. Meanwhile, the National Socialist German Workers Party would obviously fall far left of center, just to the right of communist socialism. Academic sociologists and political theorists (virtually all leftists themselves) saw calamity in assigning Communists and Nazis to the same wing of a political spectrum. So they stood on their heads and contrived a way to claim Nazis as far right.
For a fun exercise, ask a politician or academic what specifically makes Nazi "extreme" right wing.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:20 am to NC_Tigah
Thank you for the information. Some others have alluded to this, but this is a good in depth explanation.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:20 am to DolphinDaddy
Nazi and neo nazi philosophy was and is a crime against humanity, so their brutality and inhumanity to their fellow man will never be accepted or acceptable. Most of the media, and bureaucracy in this country are marxist/socialists, so their brutality and inhumanity to their fellow man has been papered over, covered up, excused, denied, and even rationalized.
Putting the right wing label on the Nazis and neo-Nazis is much more about vilifying those who oppose the marxist/socialist agenda, than it is about drawing any real distinction between Nazism and marxism/socialism.
Putting the right wing label on the Nazis and neo-Nazis is much more about vilifying those who oppose the marxist/socialist agenda, than it is about drawing any real distinction between Nazism and marxism/socialism.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:21 am to DolphinDaddy
The same reason the party of Slavery and Jim Crow say that it was actually today's Republicans that did all that.
The left constantly lies and rewrites history to further their agenda.
The left constantly lies and rewrites history to further their agenda.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:21 am to AggieHank86
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IRL, the sane 75% of each party understands that this is utter nonsense.
Mostly reasonable...but I would add that most democrats are easily emotionally used for some reason (along with a percentage of Rs)...
The last three years have been proof positive.
They actually make people give a shite about a money laundering scheme called Ukraine.
Don't get me wrong, there's a bunch of innocent people caught up in it, but wholly shite, no one cares about Yemen or other actual global happenings until they're told to...
People are just generally puppets.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:23 am to squid_hunt
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I don't think there's an effective alternative. I also think you'll find if you go too far out of norm you remove yourself from the process. LP has been trying to show themselves as the unique alternative for decades and never gets more than 1-2%.
That's because Libertarianism is a great philosophy but a shitty form of government. All governments must have some form of coercive power in order to "...banish force and fraud from human relationships". Self-proclaimed libertarians take great pride in destroying one another based on positions on abortion and unrestricted drug use while the uniparty panders to extremes of those wedge issues while ruthlessly championing every other tenet at odds with the libertarian platform. Furthermore, they choose Gary f'ing Johnson to represent them who can't even tell us that Aleppo was the result of the US intervention in Iraq, which violated every tenet of the NAP central to the Libertarian platform.
They are a fricking joke.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:23 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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The same reason the party of Slavery and Jim Crow say that it was actually today's Republicans that did all that.
The left constantly lies and rewrites history to further their agenda.
Yeah, it's stupid...Republicans moved south because of Air Conditioning, and others bucked their parental nonsense. My family is a product of that.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:23 am to DolphinDaddy
quote:I am going to act on the assumption that you actually ARE primarily a sports fan and are seeking in good faith to increase your knowledge of politics.
I could agree with that, but then why do we allow the loons to run everything?
The answer to this question is twofold: (1) the 2-party system and (2) party primaries.
The most-ideological (and most-extreme) tend to be the ones who take the time and effort to vote in primaries, and they tend to select candidates who effectively portray themselves at one end of the political spectrum or the other. (Often they are not as extreme as primary voters, but they must cater to those extreme voters to retain their position and power).
By the time that the less-interested majority notice that there is an election coming, the loons have already selected the candidates, and the majority of the population is left with a Hobson's choice between two candidates who have boxed themselves into the position that they will have to act as extremist ideologues at each end of the spectrum. (Increasingly, a larger percentage of them seem to actually BE extremist ideologues).
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 11:27 am
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:23 am to SammyTiger
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Sound familiar?
Yeah, we get it. Globalism and multiculturalism good. Self identity and nationalism bad. Ever stop to wonder why the people in power want to destroy your identity?
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:25 am to DolphinDaddy
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This is probably a dumb question, but why is Neo-Nazism considered right wing?
In a nutshell, Liberal projectionism.
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