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re: This is probably a dumb question, but why is Neo-Nazism considered right wing?
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:44 am to SammyTiger
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:44 am to SammyTiger
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Local government is government.
Big and small is about the size of control over Your life not how much territory it controls.
It’s only Slightly better because it’s slightly easier to move to a new state than a new country’s
There is little recourse against Washington DC overstepping and you know it.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:44 am to AggieHank86
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Authoritarians think that government should answer every question.
My point is that most American “conservatives” are fine with the state government to answer a lot of questions.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 11:45 am
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:45 am to SammyTiger
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My point is that most American “conservatives” would rather with the state government to answer every question.
Fify
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:46 am to SammyTiger
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My point is that most American “conservatives” are fine with the state government to answer a lot of questions
Also tbf, it says that in the Constitution
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:47 am to SammyTiger
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gay marriage, etc… ISNT actually small government.
This is objectively wrong. Not recognizing marriage or having a definition at all is small government. SCOTUS didn't get rid of marriage as a legal term, they just forced a definition on the rest of the country. The government still has the power to define who can and can't get married, you just like the definition better now.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:47 am to SammyTiger
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My point is that most American “conservatives” are fine with the state government to answer a lot of questions.
Conservatives want smaller, more responsible government that actually represents the people involved.
That means state and local over federal. They don't care if the State or city is strict, because you can leave if things get out of hand.
The dumbest thing you can do is have two parties and one government to represent almost 400 million of the most diverse people on the planet. Its not working.
A large central government is always oppressive. Every time.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 11:48 am
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:47 am to SammyTiger
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My point is that most American “conservatives” are fine with the state government to answer a lot of questions.
Because they're constitutional republicans. Once again, I ask you what alternative you offer?
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:48 am to squid_hunt
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Because they're constitutional republicans. Once again, I ask you what alternative you offer?
IIRC he thinks the federal government is more efficient and works better than state governments.
No, I'm not kidding.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:48 am to Flats
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gay marriage, etc… ISNT actually small government.
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This is objectively wrong
Gay marriage, abortion, guns, etc should be local and state issues.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:49 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Gay marriage, abortion, guns, etc should be local and state issues.
According to the constitution, they are
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:50 am to DolphinDaddy
It’s my understanding that this classification was based on a European left-right political/economic scale, which is further left overall than ours. According to an American classification, they are both left wing ideologies because they both involve big government control over political/economic systems. Fascism involves some private market with the government picking winners and losers and the winners colluding with the government to push competitors out of the market through regulation. Communism typically forbids private markets or private ownership in general. This is more of a total government political/economic system; thus, it is further left than Fascism.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:52 am to AggieHank86
This chart is very outdated. How old is it?
The current progressive crop are very authoritarian and do not belong in the upper left quadrant. That section would be more for classic liberals like Elon Musk, Bill Maher, and the like.
AOC and her progressive band of freaks belong down there with Stalin.
The current progressive crop are very authoritarian and do not belong in the upper left quadrant. That section would be more for classic liberals like Elon Musk, Bill Maher, and the like.
AOC and her progressive band of freaks belong down there with Stalin.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:52 am to Flats
quote:And once again we are back to the Incorporation Doctrine, a pox upon the Constitution if ever there was one.
SCOTUS didn't get rid of marriage as a legal term, they just forced a definition on the rest of the country. The government still has the power to define who can and can't get married, you just like the definition better now.
SHOULD states be able to make their own laws (in this area and others)? Yes. But so long as SCOTUS holds to the (erroneous and ill-conceived) Incorporation Doctrine, the states' ability to do so will remain limited.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:53 am to squid_hunt
My alternative would be that once you get something back to the state level, don’t use local government to oppress individual rights.
My POINT is that neither major party is anti-big government. They both use the federal government when they can and only seem to cry about state rights when they think their state will do something different that they want.
My POINT is that neither major party is anti-big government. They both use the federal government when they can and only seem to cry about state rights when they think their state will do something different that they want.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 11:56 am
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:53 am to DolphinDaddy
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but why is Neo-Nazism considered right wing?
Socially it's because all the Neo-Nazi's vote for conservatives.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:54 am to SammyTiger
quote:I think it would be more accurate to say that they would prefer that the state government do so than that the federal government do so.
My point is that most American “conservatives” are fine with the state government to answer a lot of questions
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:55 am to AggieHank86
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SHOULD states be able to make their own laws (in this area and others)? Yes. But so long as SCOTUS holds to the (erroneous and ill-conceived) Incorporation Doctrine, the states' ability to do so will remain limited.
I suspect there are STILL different legal requirements in various states. SCOTUS allows those because politically it only cared about gay marriage.
In any event my point stands. This argument that "allowing gay marriage is small government and not doing so is big government" is objectively false.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:57 am to IceTiger
quote:State vs federal is a Constitutional debate.
My point is that most American “conservatives” are fine with the state government to answer a lot of questionsquote:
Also tbf, it says that in the Constitution
Government vs private contract is a philosophical one.
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:58 am to DolphinDaddy
Better question - why is the klan lumped in with the right wing?
America's first "progressive" President (Wilson) was a HUGE fan of the klan.
America's first "progressive" President (Wilson) was a HUGE fan of the klan.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 11:59 am
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:59 am to IceTiger
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Why is there a need?
If someone dies without a will who gets their stuff?
Happens pretty often.
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