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re: This is probably a dumb question, but why is Neo-Nazism considered right wing?

Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:18 pm to
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26689 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:18 pm to
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The left wing media is constantly harping on the evil neo Nazis. The right wing media? Nah.

On the other hand, Antifa is constantly criticized and hated by this board and FoxNews, while they are lionized by the left.


How about because “nazis” are statistically non-existent in this country and haven’t had any power anywhere in the world for 80 years.

While antifa are currently active terrorists and violent instigators in this country.

Why aren’t we complaining about bootleggers and the klan?
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 10:19 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39117 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:23 pm to
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Are there Nazis in Portland attacking people and pepper spraying them? Did an off-duty Army sergeant trying to earn a few extra bucks shoot a Nazi that was attacking his car and had to face charges from a corrupt DA because of it? If Nazis looted and burned all summer maybe you'd have a coherent point. As it is you just have the contrarian schtick, and that's a crowded stage with hank back.

Yet the left wing boards find reasons to criticize Proud Boys et al. The point stands.

From Bloodlands…
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The rise of Hitler was indeed an opportunity to present the Soviet Union as the defense of European civilization. Stalin, after more than a year, finally took it in June 1934. According to the new line of the Communist International, propagated then, politics was no longer a matter of “class against class.” Instead, the Soviet Union and communist parties around the world would unite the Left in a camp of “anti-fascists.” Rather than engaging in uncompromising class struggle, communists would rescue civilization from the rising tide of fascism. Fascism, the term popularized by Mussolini in Italy, was presented by the Soviets as a general corruption of late capitalism. Though fascism’s spread signified the end of the old capitalist order, its vicious hatred of the Soviet Union (went the argument) justified Soviet and communist compromises with other capitalist forces (in the interest of defending the Soviet Union). European communists were to restyle themselves as “anti-fascists,” and to cooperate with social democrats and other parties of the Left. Communists in Europe were expected to join “Popular Fronts,” electoral alliances and win election victories with social democrats and other parties of the Left.


The point has been proved, even though you are too recalcitrant to accept it. Hitler, and other facists, were right wing.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21689 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:20 pm to
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The point has been proved, even though you are too recalcitrant to accept it. Hitler, and other facists, were right wing.


I’ve said nothing about that; it’s a pointless conversation. There’s nothing for me to “accept”.

I addressed your asinine implication that discussing antifa more than nazis was somehow due to some political sympathy as opposed to what groups are active in the US, attempting to influence public opinion and policy. Try to stay on topic.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19118 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 11:28 pm to
Fascism was a right wing, authoritarian, reaction to communism.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123810 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 11:39 am to
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So what’s the point of a China only travel ban?
As other Countries demonstrated Covid positivity, travel from them was banned as well. You apparently don’t remember that.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21875 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 11:51 am to
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Are there Nazis in Portland attacking people and pepper spraying them?


Yes - you may want to look up the Proud Boys sometime.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9406 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:03 pm to
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Penrod


What does the word Nazi stand for?
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13316 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:06 pm to
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Yes - you may want to look up the Proud Boys sometime.


You're still an idiot. Proud Boys are a response to antifa violence.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:15 pm to
Nooooo! Anything bad = left wing
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9406 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:15 pm to
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Penrod


Again, what does the word Nazi mean?

What type of economies did the two most well-known fascist states run?
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9406 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:16 pm to
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Fascism was a right wing, authoritarian, reaction to communism.


It's strange then that the leaders of the two most recognizable fascist states were socialists.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123810 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:24 pm to
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Fascism was a right wing, authoritarian, reaction to communism
Right wing? How so?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123810 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 8:18 pm to
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When was the last time you saw neo Nazis ganged up on by this board?
In every Ukraine post?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162208 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 8:21 pm to
Probably because it's more prevalent on the right? If you dispute this you don't live in reality. Yes of course it exists on the left also but it's much more prevalent on the right.
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