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re: There is a reason young men are rejecting the Church and following guys like Andrew Tate
Posted on 8/3/23 at 4:07 pm to burger bearcat
Posted on 8/3/23 at 4:07 pm to burger bearcat
A lot of Churches/church attendees are there to worship according to their tradition. They men leave the heavy talk outside of the Services. Albeit given the times this may well change, and like the Black Church, their gatherings may become more of the spiritual dynamics and a strategy to confront the evil which challenges their Faith. Honestly it’s pretty simple, either fight back as they fight or lose. IMO, Christians will not fight via any organized center efforts to challenge a rogue government, but they will take the gloves off when defending against the heathen that government policy unleashes on them. Then after the dust settles re the heathen they’ll go after those in said rogue government who perpetrated the whole calamity. None will dodge the coming pain. That is the historical norm and Life 101. At least and hopefully until Jesus takes the helm.
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 4:15 pm to burger bearcat
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So he is a “do as I say, not as I do” kind of person
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To some degree, aren't we all?
Boom.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 4:21 pm to Chromdome35
This hasn't even went to court. How can anyone say it is or isn't bullshite?
Posted on 8/3/23 at 4:42 pm to burger bearcat
You cannot engage with the question. This is amazing.
What are you so afraid of that you feel the need to constantly be worried about protecting?
Did the "other folks" move in to your neighborhood?
I cannot understand the level of paranoia some of you live with.
This is the safest time in human history to be alive.
What are you so afraid of that you feel the need to constantly be worried about protecting?
Did the "other folks" move in to your neighborhood?
I cannot understand the level of paranoia some of you live with.
This is the safest time in human history to be alive.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 4:54 pm to JiminyCricket
Agreed, and I think that’s what a lot of people were doing over the past 20 years. The issue is, in the last 2, churches have become increasingly worried about “political correctness” and it’s making Christianity in the region a joke. Probably part of plan to get religion out of the “cosmopolitan” society of the NE. People who realize it are leaving to go to areas where this is not a priority.
I went to church recently up there and at one moment, the priest was giving the “life is precious” sermon, and in the next condemning Russia and demanding support for Ukraine rather than preaching for a peaceful resolution as soon as possible. It just seems very disingenuous at the end of the day.
I went to church recently up there and at one moment, the priest was giving the “life is precious” sermon, and in the next condemning Russia and demanding support for Ukraine rather than preaching for a peaceful resolution as soon as possible. It just seems very disingenuous at the end of the day.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 4:59 pm to JasonDBlaha
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We’ll guess what: most of us are out of school and have good paying jobs. We are disciplined, work out hard, and stay committed to our careers. We’re tired of the younger generation of women having inflated egos due to feminism and social media. You really don’t understand how feminism and social media have fricked women in the head. It’s convinced Western women that they don’t need men to be happy, and that they can do the things that men do.
You needed some grifting internet douchebag to reach those conclusions?
Posted on 8/3/23 at 5:18 pm to Indefatigable
We already had those conclusions. We just simply needed a public figure to reaffirm them.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 5:20 pm to Indefatigable
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You needed some grifting internet douchebag to reach those conclusions?
There are plenty of beta males like yourself who need a 4 time kick boxing world champ to grift them off onlyfans
Sorry that upsets you
Posted on 8/3/23 at 5:29 pm to Hester Carries
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This is just an excuse ungodly people throw out to feel good about it
No, it’s about utter hypocrisy. It’s disgusting and putrid. I am not going to align myself with an organization that acts in such ways.
The Catholic Church left me, I did not leave it. I’m not calling myself perfect, but when the leader of the church has been an accomplice to such coverups then wants you to be a “good little stuart” I’m out. There is no tradition in this world that will have me be a part of it when crimes have been committed against children.
The whole “they will face God in heaven” is a total and complete cop-out for putting up with such wretched behavior. Men need to stand up and demand better. Most of you need to look in the mirror and decide if you are truly conservative to bring such conversations up to your priests, monsieurs, or if your lucky to have the ear of your cardinal. Demand reform or leave. It isn’t like the Church hasn’t been reformed in the past.
I’ve spoken to priests locally who despise the leadership and rightfully so. So I know there is some anger about it. The problem is just as bad in the Catholic Church as it is in our own government.
So yes, I don’t follow the Catholic Church, but I don’t follow tate guys either. We have a local church we attend.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 5:29 pm to jclem11
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What are you so afraid of that you feel the need to constantly be worried about protecting?
I am neither afraid or worried and never said such a thing
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Did the "other folks" move in to your neighborhood?
Thankfully my neighborhood is still fairly like minded and we would like to keep it that way.
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I cannot understand the level of paranoia some of you live with.
Making shite up again. Who said anyone was paranoid. Are cops and military paranoid for carrying guns? How often does your average cop in a suburban town have to use his service weapon?
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This is the safest time in human history to be alive.
Thanks to the men who paved the way through all kind of misery and pain. And the men behind the scenes who still protect your little insulated bubble. None of your life is some given, just because you happened to be born into some "safe", modern culture as you say.
Of course if you question elections or Covid or climate, then all the sudden its not so safe, the state will be coming through your door and arresting you. But if you stay home, eat junk food, watch porn, play fantasy football, and don't reproduce... the state will do everything possoble to continue to subsidize this lifestyle.
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 8/3/23 at 5:33 pm to burger bearcat
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I am neither afraid or worried and never said such a thing
You are obsessed the need to protect, you must be scared of something. You sound like a schizo rn.
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Thankfully my neighborhood is still fairly like minded and we would like to keep it that way.
Hmm...some coded language there. Telling.
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Making shite up again. Who said anyone was paranoid.
I'm using your words, chief. You are the one that is obsessed with "protection" and cannot articulate what precise threat it is that you are facing.
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Thanks to the men who paved the way through all kind of misery and pain. And the men behind the scenes who still protect your little insulated bubble. None of your life is some given, just because you happened to be born into some "safe", modern culture as you say.
Of course if you question elections or Covid or climate, then all the sudden its not so safe, the state will be coming through your door and arresting you. But if you stay home, eat junk food, watch porn, play fantasy football, and don't reproduce... the state will do everything possoble to continue to subsidize this lifestyle.
More screeds to obfuscate and deflect from the simple question.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:48 pm to Indefatigable
I think the idea is it’s at least one person who is part of pop culture that delivers this message, while the majority complain about having to work at least 8 hours a day to make the average income in America (which is much higher than most places in the world). It’s not rocket science, can you explain why you have a tough time understanding that? Probably not.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 7:54 pm to burger bearcat
Andrew Tate says some positive things, but he’s also a classic con-artist. He says a few basic things that it’s an absolute travesty so few people are telling young men to hook them, and then pivots to advocating for straight up bad and exploitative behavior and habits. He’s a total hypocrite. Josh Peterson is definitely a better non-woke male role model who says a lot of similar positive stuff without the toxic junk.
People are rejecting the church, rejecting their schools, rejecting corporate grind culture, rejecting mainstream media, etc because our society is broken, decadent, and in the midst of a cultural/economic revolution which will likely soon become a political one as well.
We are living in the death throes of the Pax-Americana. People are turning to these charlatans because our institutions have invalidated themselves.
People are rejecting the church, rejecting their schools, rejecting corporate grind culture, rejecting mainstream media, etc because our society is broken, decadent, and in the midst of a cultural/economic revolution which will likely soon become a political one as well.
We are living in the death throes of the Pax-Americana. People are turning to these charlatans because our institutions have invalidated themselves.
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 8/3/23 at 8:05 pm to kingbob
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pivots to advocating for straight up bad and exploitative behavior and habits.
Please list all of these bad behaviors he advocates for
Posted on 8/3/23 at 8:07 pm to VictoryTiger
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It’s not rocket science, can you explain why you have a tough time understanding that? Probably not.
I have no problem understanding that.
What I have difficulty understanding is why anyone needs, desires, wants, or is entertained by internet personality douches .
Posted on 8/3/23 at 8:07 pm to burger bearcat
Heckin love AT 
Posted on 8/3/23 at 8:15 pm to Indefatigable
I get that, but welcome to the 21st century…we are far past the times maybe you grew up in where your role models were your neighbor or some guy who fought in WWII. Society has changed drastically and to have someone who doesn’t complain about capitalism or whatever as their ploy to get views, likes, followers, etc should be supported. Maybe if Karl Marx had a Tik tok, it would put things in perspective as to how bad popular culture is currently, and Andrew Tate should not even be on your list of concerns
Posted on 8/3/23 at 8:19 pm to burger bearcat
He fills a void the church actively avoided.
Most of the subject matter of the "man-o-sphere" is stuff that should have been taken care of in church...it wasn't and many questions weren't answered.
Most of the subject matter of the "man-o-sphere" is stuff that should have been taken care of in church...it wasn't and many questions weren't answered.
Posted on 8/3/23 at 8:21 pm to VictoryTiger
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we are far past the times maybe you grew up in where your role models were your neighbor or some guy who fought in WWII
sounds like I’m at least a generation younger than you think I am. I’m younger than Tate. I totally and completely understand the current internet-celebrity obsessed world. I just think it’s cancer for society. The millennials and the millennial’s children’s obsession with people on the internet who have never done anything of value is the worst thing about modern culture. It’s vapid and will (and already is) leading to decline in not only society but quality of life as well. I have no respect for anyone over about 14 who follows or pays attention to people like Tate. frick those people
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 8/3/23 at 8:22 pm to burger bearcat
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To some degree, aren't we all? The only perfect man was Jesus.
But you are sort of missing the point of my OP, as it wasn't really meant to say how great Tate is. I was simply contrasting his message with the normal, watered down message coming from most American churches these days.
I wish the Church could discuss the issues he's willing to discuss. But instead they would rather give a feel good, Ted talk about how you need to be nice all the time.
This applies to education as well.
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