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re: The Truth: No One is Born Gay or Trans.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:27 am to Narax
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:27 am to Narax
quote:I get what you're saying, but the truth is no Kinsey 6 is gay by choice. Born that way is a misnomer insofar as no one is born with a sex drive at all. So one could equally accurately claim that no one is born heterosexual .... because no one is born sexual at all.
The Truth: No One is Born Gay or Trans.
The broader social conundrum relates to normalization (celebration) of gay lifestyle, and homosexualizing of the populace (homosexual encouragement for the ~20% of Kinsey 1-5's). Factually, homosexuality is not normal, anymore than a 150 IQ is normal. However, though the incidence is not normal, it is something that occurs with a certain normal infrequency in nature.
For those individuals affected, homosexual attraction is their reality, and they adapt, just as a color blind person adapts to top-bottom traffic lights vs red and green. But just because a color blind person sees red and green as gray does not mean society should celebrate it, or change out red-green stop lights to gray.
IMO, we'd all do ourselves a HUGE favor by ceasing focus on gayness altogether, returning to a don't ask, don't tell approach, and keeping bedroom proclivities in the bedroom.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 4:34 am
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:30 am to NC_Tigah
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IMO, we'd all do ourselves a HUGE favor by ceasing focus on gayness altogether, returning to a don't ask, don't tell approach, and keeping bedroom proclivities in the bedroom.
Agreed but with the pandora's box of social media this is essentially impossible
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:56 am to Powerman
quote:Nah. It's a matter of social acceptability. There are a litany of things we could put out there in social media, but we don't. We don't, because to do so would rate as socially unacceptable.
this is essentially impossible
The concern for socially pushing things which are physiologically and/or functionally abnormal, is the likelihood of pent-up pushback.
Inherently, we (in the vast majority) know the transgendering of a child is dead wrong. Yet, some progs not only deny that fact, but flaunt the denial by pushing the issue. Eventually there will be pushback, and it won't be pretty.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 4:58 am to NC_Tigah
I"m picturing you trying to put toothpaste back into a tube
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:23 am to Powerman
quote:Picture instead, Berlin in 1936 after being told by the world Germany's new normal was continuous reparation to France and international subservience.
I"m picturing you trying to put toothpaste back into a tube
Picture around 20% of Germany’s corporate elite being Jewish vs Jews representing <1% of the populace. Picture the population being told, that is the norm. As the Depression hit, destitute Germans observed Jewish Bankers foreclosing "normal" people's businesses, taking their homes, seizing their possessions. As the Depression deepened, the German populace observations, transitioned to resentment, and then to seething anger.
That's when they tried to squeeze toothpaste back into a tube.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:25 am to RobbBobb
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And now you have the conclusions of decades long quality, peer reviewed evidence.
No, I have a summary of your opinion. Post the studies that prove your opinion.
Again, this thread is strong on opinion, and weak on facts.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:28 am to NC_Tigah
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That's when they tried to squeeze toothpaste back into a tube.
And almost succeeded had their leader not gone too far.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:33 am to Narax
It's time to shame the Trans freaks back into hiding, frick these mentally ill freaks.
Never has 0.08% of any population received so much attention
Never has 0.08% of any population received so much attention
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:42 am to MrLahey
quote:This plus "Daddy issues"
I can't recall the study, but the VAST majority of gay males were sexually abused by sick men.... some high profile gay men
Fatherless homes* generates a high number of hoes, and gheys.
*Also includes fathers that aren't at home because they work to much, and dont care about properly rearing their children.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 6:27 am to chalmetteowl
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it's only weird because it's what we assume to be normal. if half the people were straight and half were not it would be a topic of conversation. Gays are the ones who have to tell people they're gay because otherwise they'd never find each other
Gays have to have an entire month of celebrating being abnormal and having parades with naked dudes walking around with dildos in their buttholes because otherwise there would be no medium for them to locate one another?
Posted on 8/28/25 at 6:32 am to ibldprplgld
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Again, this thread is strong on opinion, and weak on facts.
You are weak at understanding.
Read the Wikipedia article.
It summarizes the most successful studies.
Then take a course in statistics.
Then realize that any increased likelihood means that there were many people with those genes and gene combinations who were straight.
Its like a 10% higher chance of prostate cancer.
And those are studies that p hacked enough to publish something that wouldn't get them cancelled.
I'll again ask what in you breaks if you have to admit to yourself that no one is born gay or destined to be gay.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 6:39 am to Powerman
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If being gay is a choice then being heterosexual is also a choice.
Not really.
Again, I think some people are hardwired gay. I agree that they didn't make a choice to be gay.
I think other people (more and more, actually) choose homosexual identification and behavior for social reasons. It gets young people a LOT of affirmation and attention these days. On social media and at school.
Being heterosexual doesn't. No one gets attention or affirmation for that in 2025.
There's clearly a social aspect to this. Like the Bill Maher episode where he unveiled his chart using the trend from the past 10 years to project that by 2050, everyone will be gay, there's simply no way that biology alone is responsible for the massive uptick in young people identifying as LGBTQ recently.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:01 am to Narax
So you your answer when asked for research to support your opinion is Wikipedia? 
Yikes.
Yikes.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:09 am to LouisianaLonghorn
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I agree with you about the trans part, but I don't believe that every gay person was either sexually abused or exposed to gay porn as a child. That's ridiculous.
Agreed.
I know a few gays and lesbians. None of them were sexually abused. And most of them say they were always attracted to the same sex, as far back as they can remember.
One lesbian friend dated just guys and was engaged to a guy, but called off the wedding and moved in with a girlfriend. She always seemed sad when she was “straight”. But now, she’s happy as a clam (pun intended).
I dont know any trans people, but somehow I just think it’s different. I think there’s some mental health and abuse history there.
But really, if they would all just shut the frick up and go about their lives quietly like regular society, and leave the kids alone, I don’t think I’d care.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:21 am to Espritdescorps
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I think some kids are born gay.
They're not.
Children exhibiting sexualized behavior at that young age were most certainly abused, or at the very least exposed to sexualized content by people supposedly caring for them.
You are born male to female, sexuality is a choice.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 7:51 am
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:22 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
I get what you're saying, but the truth is no Kinsey 6 is gay by choice. Born that way is a misnomer insofar as no one is born with a sex drive at all. So one could equally accurately claim that no one is born heterosexual .... because no one is born sexual at all.
I agree there is a difference between born that way and has a choice.
Pavlovs dog was not born salivating for a bell, but by the end it had no choice.
Much like with porn addiction and opioids, we know the dopamine release in humans drives drives behaviors and desires.
Exposure to it coupled with dopamine releases in childhood will set them on a lifelong addiction to a specific comfort food.
There were a few interesting things in this thread.
The number of people right wing with a belief that because of people they knew, gays must have been born that way.
People on the left were, on average, more willing to admit that they knew that it was only complex early to late childhood developments and not a DNA is destiny as had been preached by the Pride organizations for many decades.
But nearly everyone implicitly agrees that it is important whether or not people are born gay.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:24 am to wackatimesthree
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Again, I think some people are hardwired gay. I agree that they didn't make a choice to be gay.
Yeah...if it's not a choice to be heterosexual then it likely isn't a choice to be gay anyway
If anything it would take tremendous effort to overcome your "natural" urges. And if it's natural to be heterosexual and only heterosexual then it would take a significant amount of effort to become gay.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:32 am to Powerman
quote:It appears for ~20% of the population, it is a choice. About 2% are K6, or 'hardwired' gay.
if it's not a choice to be heterosexual then it likely isn't a choice to be gay anyway
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:32 am to Narax
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The Truth: No One is Born Gay or Trans.
Not exactly. No one is born trans, but there are people who are born gay. LINK
The linked study found that 52% of identical male twins of gay men were also gay, compared to 22% of fraternal twins. For females, a 1993 study showed a 48% concordance for identical twins versus 16% for fraternal twins.
There was a 2010 study which found that families in families with at least one gay child, the chance that another child was also gay rose by 33%.
This indicates there is likely a genetic component which can allow for people being born gay.
However,... yes the whole sexual abuse aspect plays such a large role that it can obfuscate things. LINK
The linked study used 2019 CDC survey (over 60,000 participants across eight states) found that 83% of queer (using that as a catchall for all non-heterosexual categories) adults reported at least one instance of sexual abuse, compared to 64% of heterosexual adults. Specifically, queer individuals reported higher rates of sexual abuse, though exact percentages for sexual abuse alone weren’t isolated in the study. Over half (52%) of queer adults reported three or more assaults, compared to 26% of heterosexual adults.
Taking all of this together, it may well be that a majority of homosexuality comes from sexual abuse when they were kids but also that a very small percentage of even that group are indeed born gay.
For trans though, that's a dysmorphic view of the Self with the individual trying to express their sexuality through that warped lens. They "feel like" they are the opposite sex, feeling like you are something is a perception born of the learning which comes through various experiences. To learn the behavior that you "feel like" you were born with the wrong genitals takes some serious trauma.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:33 am to Powerman
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Yeah...if it's not a choice to be heterosexual then it likely isn't a choice to be gay anyway
I didn’t choose to be right handed. But I could choose to be left handed. Me choosing to be left handed is not proof of a choice to be right handed.
I’m not saying gayness is a choice for the record, I don’t know. I’m just saying your logic is silly.
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