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re: The Truth: No One is Born Gay or Trans.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:53 pm to baybeefeetz
Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:53 pm to baybeefeetz
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lol wut? The kid likes dick, but he’s still a he. Don’t put that shite in quotes lololol too funny.
Just say your prayer each night my man that you have not had to live with this and while you're at it, ask God to soften your heart.
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:56 pm to Masterag
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This kid I grew up with has been that way since we were in kindergarten, and even then we knew he was different. So unless something profound happened to him before that point, then I’m pretty sure it’s a natural phenomenon.
Yep. That is why it has been so hard to deal with as a family member on the outside looking in. I really don't care how many on here or in my life don't agree.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:56 pm to ThuperThumpin
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Is there any data indicating that young people changed their sexual orientation after abuse?
Not that I am aware of.
That conclusion comes from data that shows that a statistically very significant percentage of gay people were abused as children. Significantly higher than straight people.
There's also quite a wealth of anecdotal stories of people who opine that abuse did change their sexuality.
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 8/27/25 at 9:58 pm to Narax
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I'm more than willing to see more studies into epigenetic triggers.
The most obvious would be an analogous situation to hemolytic disease of the newborn, where either Rh incompatibility or ABO incompatibility can lead to hemolytic disease. Both of these require maternal antibodies to act against nonself antigens.
Such a pattern would fit in with data that suggests that men with older brothers are more likely to be gay.
The possible presence of maternal antibodies against testosterone in week 8-10 can possibly explain away some of the brain scan data we see with trans individuals. Dysregulation of testosterone function in those early periods is the pathophysiology of disorders of sex development, like the spectrum of Androgen insensitivity syndromes, that present similarly specific trans individuals.
There is plenty of room to suggest a possible physiologic cause. Other theories I can offer are neuroendocrine dysfunction, cortisol dysfunction and a few others where there is dysfunction along several steps of the HPA axis.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:01 pm to ibldprplgld
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Nope
I mean I could see.it would be possible.to rewire some of those circuits due to extreme repetitive abuse.....just curious if there was any studies done on it. The only gay people I've known came from loving homes and they have been same sex attracted since they were children.
Interesting side note...though .I had a relative that under went ECT treatment and pretty much had her brain rebooted. For a short period of time she thought she was gay then reverted back to heterosexual
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:01 pm to SlayTime
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Honestly, I don’t really care about other people’s bedroom behavior. Just leave children out of it.
Not caring about having a moral society is exactly how we got here.
If they kept it to "bedroom behavior" they would not be wearing their sin as a badge of honor in public. Why do we need gay characters in kid TV and movies if its "bedroom behavior"? Why do they need to have parades in every city where they act like strippers in public? They dont mind their business and keep it "in the bedroom", they make it as public as possible. They do that because they are perverts.
It would be weird and a societal no-no if men went around telling kids and strangers in public they like fricking women. So why do figs do this and were all supposed to nod our head understandingly?
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:03 pm to oklahogjr
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Again you are not thinking in the correct terms here. You can be born with something that doesn't display till later. Ie you don't normally have strong sexual desires till puberty.... Love and attraction are hormone based things. Horomones balancing is both driven by environmental factors and genetic factors prior to birth.
You are saying what you choose to believe.
Now why do you want to believe it so bad.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:06 pm to crazy4lsu
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physiologic cause. Other theories I can offer are neuroendocrine dysfunction, cortisol dysfunction and a few others where there is dysfunction along several steps of the HPA axis.
So essentially sexual orientation is complicated and perhaps we still dont have a full picture of how it all works..I wonder why that is such a difficult idea for some folks to grasp.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:08 pm to wackatimesthree
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conclusion comes from data that shows that a statistically very significant percentage of gay people were abused as children.
Perhaps they are more vulnerable due to the fact that they are gay?
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There's also quite a wealth of anecdotal stories of people who opine that abuse did change their sexuality.
Perhaps both are true. Some are born that way or have a genetic trait that makes them more sexually fluid. And abuse or same sex encounter at a young age locks it in.
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:10 pm to ThuperThumpin
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I mean I could see.it would be possible.to rewire some of those circuits due to extreme repetitive abuse.....just curious if there was any studies done on it. The only gay people I've known came from loving homes and they have been same sex attracted since they were children.
There’ve been many studies on it, but no causal link between child abuse and orientation have been found.
In fact, the poster above indicates gay men report child abuse at higher rates, which is true, but all of the studies I’ve seen on it indicate a few things additional: 1) gender non-conforming boys are often more vulnerable to predators, and 2) gay men are statistically more likely report child abuse than straight men.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:10 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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I agree with you about the trans part, but I don't believe that every gay person was either sexually abused or exposed to gay porn as a child.
That's ridiculous.
right. people CAN be born ILL.
whilst trans become mentally ill after brianwashing the queers could just have a chemical imbalance in their brains and Could be born that way. trans are absolutely mentally ill and are choosing their gender. does not mean they were born that way.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:12 pm to duckblind56
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That is why it has been so hard to deal with as a family member on the outside looking in.
I have family members who are gay as well.
I don't know if you are a Christian or not, but if you are, just remember that every one of us has evil, sinful desires.
And we all give in to a lot of those desires.
The person struggling with homosexual desires is no different in that regard.
They are not spiritually inferior to straight people. They are not spiritually different, or marked, or damned, or anything that you and I aren't.
They have to decide to allow God to be in control of their lives, they have to decide to repent of their sin and resolve to resist the desire to repeat it with the help of the Holy Spirit, which is the same thing I have to do, the same thing you have to do, the same thing all of us have to do. It's the only thing we can do.
And they will fall—just like we do—and if they believe and trust in Him and repent, God will forgive them and pick them up and continue to sanctify them, just like you and I.
And it may take them a long time to become willing to love Jesus more than their sexuality. It took me a long time to become willing to love Jesus more than mine.
My advice is to relate to them just like anyone else who needs Christ, because that's all they are. Just like you and I. Someone who needs Christ. Keep praying and keep being there for them and keep showing them the love of Christ. God can do amazing things in people if they will allow Him to. Don't give up.
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:12 pm to ThuperThumpin
Well, again there are some easy answers for that. Who wants to actually study the development of sexual expression in adolescents? A significant percentage of patients who present with gender dysphoria seem to 'grow' out of the diagnosis. The other group has refractory presentation and even then are somewhat resistant to psychiatric intervention alone.
There are several possible physiological explanations. My own personal experience talking with patients and some trans friends is that they all seem to recount a significant event sometime during their mother's pregnancy, which to me suggests a possible stress response can cause transient dysregulation of the usual, stepwise embryological process.
There are several possible physiological explanations. My own personal experience talking with patients and some trans friends is that they all seem to recount a significant event sometime during their mother's pregnancy, which to me suggests a possible stress response can cause transient dysregulation of the usual, stepwise embryological process.
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:14 pm to ThuperThumpin
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Perhaps they are more vulnerable due to the fact that they are gay?
Sure, could be.
Like I posted above, I don't think anybody really knows what causes it. It seems very complicated and multi-faceted to me. I definitely don't think it's as simple as children who are abused = gay adults.
I was just answering your question.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:15 pm to Narax
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You are saying what you choose to believe. Now why do you want to believe it so bad.
All you have stated is what you choose to believe as well, while providing not a scintilla of quality, peer reviewed evidence.
You’ve repeatedly presented the false dichotomy that there’s either a gay gene or people are definitively not born gay. That’s also oversimplification btw.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:16 pm to crazy4lsu
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The most obvious would be an analogous situation to hemolytic disease of the newborn, where either Rh incompatibility or ABO incompatibility can lead to hemolytic disease. Both of these require maternal antibodies to act against nonself antigens. Such a pattern would fit in with data that suggests that men with older brothers are more likely to be gay. The possible presence of maternal antibodies against testosterone in week 8-10 can possibly explain away some of the brain scan data we see with trans individuals. Dysregulation of testosterone function in those early periods is the pathophysiology of disorders of sex development, like the spectrum of Androgen insensitivity syndromes, that present similarly specific trans individuals. There is plenty of room to suggest a possible physiologic cause. Other theories I can offer are neuroendocrine dysfunction, cortisol dysfunction and a few others where there is dysfunction along several steps of the HPA axis.
Holy AI copy pasta, Batman!
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:17 pm to Errerrerrwere
Nah that ain't AI.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:19 pm to crazy4lsu
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Nah that ain't AI.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:21 pm to Narax
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This post was edited on 5/5/26 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:25 pm to GeauxBurrow312
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It would be weird and a societal no-no if men went around telling kids and strangers in public they like fricking women.
it's only weird because it's what we assume to be normal. if half the people were straight and half were not it would be a topic of conversation. Gays are the ones who have to tell people they're gay because otherwise they'd never find each other
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 10:28 pm
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