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re: The sad reality of people leaving NY City

Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:29 am to
Posted by Mobile Patriot
Mobile
Member since Aug 2024
784 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:29 am to
That's a misconception. Its the conservatives that are moving out. That's why Florida has become even more red. I have a business that puts me in people's homes. Many are new arrivals from California and the North East. The ones I have met are more conservative than most on here..Very religious types that homeschool their kids. Affraid that their guns will get confiscated, etc.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170773 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:30 am to
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Not all. If they feel strongly enough to leave over this, then they may be at least partially based. Believe it or not, there are conservative people in NY. Even in NYC.

The Cali refugees fleeing to Nevada to escape the madness are helping make it more red.

This seems obvious

But fearful chicken littles like OP always think the sky is falling
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9583 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:31 am to
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OK. Let’s compare TX versus NY. I pay about 2% of my home price per year and then federal taxes. Much lower then the NY taxes


Cool non-sequitur, baw.

The TX tax regime has frick all to do with NY.

Again -- no one pays 60% of their income in taxes as that poster claims.

Stop posting easily disprovable shite on this board. Makes you look deranged and retarded.

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170773 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:35 am to
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Again -- no one pays 60% of their income in taxes as that poster claims.

Of course not

Top marginal rates aren't the same as effective rates

That's not to say that the very wealthy don't have high income taxes in NYC because they certainly do
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83232 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:36 am to
I will say this. A young couple with one small child moved to my Texas neighborhood from Seattle. They looked like Seattle people. And within a year, the wife was a Trump supporter. The husband didn’t talk much politics although I believe he remained left, he wasn’t hardcore about it.

So there’s hope once people leave their bubbles.
Posted by 4x4tiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
5215 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:41 am to
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NY is a terrible place to do business, and their taxes are too high. You don't need to lie to further your point.


I don't think he's trying to lie. It's just his tax math isn't mathing
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9583 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 10:51 am to
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Of course not

Top marginal rates aren't the same as effective rates

That's not to say that the very wealthy don't have high income taxes in NYC because they certainly do


Sure but don't post lies to prove your point. You lose all credibility by lying.

That was my only point.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7452 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 11:01 am to
quote:

Florida is not BLUE

Thank goodness. But it hasn't been red for very long.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43964 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 11:03 am to
quote:

The sad reality of people leaving NY City


quote:

They will move to conservative states and still vote Democratic.


That has not been the case with Florida. People have been leaving New York and coming to Florida for over 10 years and Florida has gone from a swing state to a solid red state.
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
6330 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:33 pm to
Except for the conservatives that bail
Posted by Bandit1980
God's Country
Member since Nov 2019
4452 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:38 pm to
All of the jackass Dems that voted for him think they can just say "I voted for you...............I'm not getting taxed right?"



These people are really that dense......................
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
12250 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:44 pm to
Don't forget this gem!

quote:

Obamacare asses an additional 0.9 percent Medicare tax on earnings and a 3.8 percent tax on net investment income (NII) for individuals with incomes exceeding $200,000 and couples with incomes exceeding $250,000
Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
1069 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:56 pm to
people have been moving from NY to FL for the last 70 years, not 10.

FL turning deep red happened after Coronavirus and the Hispanics shifting to Republican. Obama won FL twice Desantis and Rick Scott won their elections in 2018 by less than 1%. then they both won their 2nd elections by 15, 20% margins. they both won Miami Dade. as did Trump in 2024...

Hilary won Miami Dade by 30% in 2016.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39838 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 12:57 pm to
The people leaving are likely conservatives
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
19293 posts
Posted on 11/6/25 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Few people will actually leave, just like few liberals left the United States due to Trump.

Yep, but even if it’s only Rosie it was all worth it.
Posted by NBR_Exile
Houston via Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
1860 posts
Posted on 11/7/25 at 12:59 pm to
So how much is too much for you?

i know the difference between marginal or effective rates. Are you willing to pay taxes at a 60% rate over the top?
Posted by KidCreole
Member since Nov 2015
231 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 2:48 am to

This is not confusing or debatable. The Fact is they have BEEN leaving New York & California in Droves for Years! And will not only continue, especially in New York City, but Increase now!

And it's also no confusing or debatable as to WHY this Has been Occurring and will now Increase!

Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
11657 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 5:01 am to
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NY State has up to a 11% income tax. NY City has another almost 4% income tax. Stack that on top of the upper wealthy of roughly 38% federal tax So living in NYC will cost you roughly 60% on your income. You must be a moron to live there.


That is the reason why Dems insisted on increasing the SALT deduction.


No one in their right mind is paying 60% in taxes. With the right deductions, you are lucky if they are paying an effective tax rate of under 40% and if they are really wealthy and steer earnings into business income or other tax shelters, you are lucky if they have an effective tax rate of 10-20%. That is why you have a good accountant to do your taxes.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
7521 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 5:51 am to
They have been leaving for decades; will accelerate that momentum now with Comrade what’s his name in charge.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24148 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 6:16 am to
If it's like California , the conservatives leaving will outnumber the loons.
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