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re: The real reason HCQ, ivermectin and any other early treatment for COVID was demonized.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:36 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:36 pm to OMLandshark
If only we could’ve had the the integrity of the guy who wrote the negative review of ivermectin and then got $40M for his university.
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:38 pm to the808bass
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And yet they approved Remdesivir, three vaccines, 4 different Mabs and two antivirals (among others). If the theory in the OP is accurate, they could’ve only approved one of the above.
Remdesivir killed a shite ton of people. It wasn't a treatment, it was a death sentence. It was used on the back end instead of the front end. You could just get on HCQ and ivermectin from the start, and the plague is over. Even with monoclonal antibodies, they weren't doing that at the start of the pandemic, and their use was perfect for nursing homes.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:38 pm to OMLandshark
The phrase “industry capture” has never been more applicable.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:39 pm to OMLandshark
I’m not disagreeing about remdesivir.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:43 pm to the808bass
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If only we could’ve had the the integrity of the guy who wrote the negative review of ivermectin and then got $40M for his university.
Seriously, what a hero. Lead to a few hundred thousand deaths. I don't see how these people live with themselves.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:44 pm to OMLandshark
His career isn’t over. It should be.
But he will always have a stain on his name. May his children learn of his betrayal.
But he will always have a stain on his name. May his children learn of his betrayal.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:45 pm to the808bass
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I’m not disagreeing about remdesivir.
I don't think you were either, my point was it was by no means a successful treatment that could have prevented the emergency vaccine authorization. It's numbers are horrendous.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:47 pm to OMLandshark
It had an approval to treat Covid.
So the EUA of one therapy didn’t preclude another EUA. Just as the individual vaccines make explicit.
So the EUA of one therapy didn’t preclude another EUA. Just as the individual vaccines make explicit.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:49 pm to OMLandshark
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Peer reviewed studies are such a fricking joke. All that happens if a peer says something Anthony Fauci doesn't like, he ends their career and threatens to end anyone else's who would dare defend anyone who would defy him and his iron fist.
That’s not how peer review works man. You give Fauci a whole lot of power. I’m not sure why you keep using Robert Kennedy as a source either without any irony. .
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:50 pm to the808bass
They needed a high death rate, to implement the rules that got Joe 81 million votes, blowing away the record of 69 million for Obama. This was game planned from the beginning, anyone who doubts this is just in denial
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:51 pm to the808bass
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His career isn’t over. It should be.
But he will always have a stain on his name. May his children learn of his betrayal.
I'm just hoping that Trump or DeSantis arrests all these people as early as their inaugural address. No possibility of parole and try Fauci first for crimes against humanity, which that trial will take a long time. Once he's convicted, they all fall.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:51 pm to BamaAtl
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Enlighten me. What peer-reviewed studies disprove my point?
The myth of the "peer reviewed" study.
Uttar Pradesh is a better case study than any peer reviewed study. At this point I think it can be concluded they do work.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:52 pm to crazy4lsu
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That’s not how peer review works man.
It’s not NOT how it works.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:56 pm to crazy4lsu
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That’s not how peer review works man. You give Fauci a whole lot of power. I’m not sure why you keep using Robert Kennedy as a source either without any irony. .
Read the book. I don't agree with all of it, but there's enough that's sure as shite true. Like I don't think he proved everything beyond a reasonable doubt, but I do think he proved beyond a reasonable doubt Fauci deliberately escalated the pandemic and intentionally killed millions of people worldwide for his bottom line.
Now while RFK won't say if he truly thinks the virus came from the lab in Wuhan from gain of function research, I think that's now beyond a reasonable doubt that's what happened. Regardless he went behind two Presidents backs to do this among other research (one of which may lead to the end of civilization as we know it), so death penalty for Fauci regardless.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:56 pm to the808bass
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It’s not NOT how it works
There’s an awful lot of shoddy work that gets through peer review. I’m skeptical that Fauci is using it to work out his random grudges or whatever.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 7:56 pm to the808bass
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It had an approval to treat Covid.
So the EUA of one therapy didn’t preclude another EUA. Just as the individual vaccines make explicit.
Yeah, but it's effective treatments. The effective being the key word there.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 8:05 pm to OMLandshark
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Read the book. I don't agree with all of it, but there's enough that's sure as shite true
What? How do you know it is true?
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I think that's now beyond a reasonable doubt that's what happened
Probably not. There’s a very specific line of argumentation that curiously no one has brought up for some reason that would be central in a circumstantial argument about the virus’s origins. The preponderance of the molecular data last I checked suggests natural origins for the virus too.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 8:07 pm to BamaAtl
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because they don't work.
You have that in common I bet.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 8:12 pm to the808bass
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It had an approval to treat Covid. So the EUA of one therapy didn’t preclude another EUA. Just as the individual vaccines make explicit.
Right, remdesivir got an EUA because of Covid. As did the multiple vaccines, monoclonal antibodies, etc. The point is that these were new, previously non-FDA approved treatments that only got approved because of the Covid EUA opportunity. No one was interested in using an already FDA approved and off-patent drug like ivermectin or hcq. They could have done an EUA for using those outside of their already approved guidelines to treat Covid, but there was no money in that.
FDA List of EUA approvals related to Covid
Posted on 8/30/22 at 8:27 pm to Wolfhound45
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The government would never lie to us...
You’ve got a lot of nerve making wisecracks about that poor fellow, when you too are one in the same. You both express irrational unquestioning blind faith to obvious falsehoods. Neither of you would ever question your preferred authority. Only difference is his “church” is the government.
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