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re: The pledge of allegiance

Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:36 pm to
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28127 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:36 pm to
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Good lord, boomer,


I think he said he was 42. The definition of boomer isn't "someone who said something I don't like".
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39849 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:41 pm to
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I think he said he was 42. The definition of boomer isn't "someone who said something I don't like".
I missed that. I'm inducting him as honorary.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:47 pm to
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I pledge allegiance to God and no flag at all. I always thought the pledge was a weird prayer like thing that we did. I certainly don't pledge allegiance to the current government.


I wish I could find it and have looked for it for hours, but I can’t find the clip of German children pledging to die for Hitler and calling him their lord and it creepily lines up with the Pledge of Allegiance. Never looked at it the same after that, and would have never done the morning announcements if I had seen that clip.
Posted by CPTDCKHD
Member since Sep 2019
1487 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 9:00 pm to
You’re right. Everything that man has created will fail. God’s strength is made perfect in our weakness.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7791 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 9:03 pm to
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No actually not. I’m old (72) and can remember when “under God” was added in the 1950s. I think I was in 1st or 2nd grade.


Thank you Knights of Columbus.
Posted by CPTDCKHD
Member since Sep 2019
1487 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 9:16 pm to
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Good lord, boomer

Incorrect. Gen X. When you assume- well, let’s assume you know the rest.
quote:

“Under God” added in 1954

Like I said, we can only take so much. Then, change will happen. His will be done.
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endoctrinating children

You mean, passing down the time honored, tried and tested and proven ideals and beliefs that made this country the greatest on earth? The same ideals that made us the beacon of freedom across the world? That made us the target of those who could not accept the truth?

You poor child. Who hurt you this badly? Just because you’ve never (few of us have) seen anyone do it right- doesn’t mean it’s not the truth. All these things- are a vapor. Thankfully, His grace and mercy is sufficient for us all.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28496 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 9:17 pm to
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To be honest I kind of have a problem with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. What if that flag is taken over by fascists and communists? You should pledge allegiance to American/Western ideals, but that’s a hell of an allegiance that could mean really anything.


I respectfully disagree because of the inclusion of the other words in the verses. See? That's how conservatives debate.

Take a knee libs.
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
9001 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 9:26 pm to
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of the United States of America


yup.. Aligned with our Country.. Our Flag represents it and everything and everyone that has died and gone before us, and all that we are today.

If our gov**me* i* *cre**g up, That's what th* @nd *m*ndm*en* *s for. <<<--- secret code from the FBI... ssshhh Don't tell anyone...

"Somebody get me a Cheeseburger..." - Steve Miller.
This post was edited on 9/13/21 at 11:30 pm
Posted by cbdman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2015
1287 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 9:28 pm to
Dude, forget the pledge, were in a post-constitutional country...
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 9:59 pm to
[quote]The flag can be taken over. The Constitution merely shredded. No, you should not pledge allegiance to a flag.[/quote]

I'll pledge allegiance to what I damn well please!

That allegiance happens to be ideals laid forth in the Constitution of the United States of America.

You sir, are not man enough to take those Rights from me!

As for the flag, as long as the pledge has the words "To the Republic for which it stands,One Nation under God, with Liberty and justice for all" in it. I'll proudly salute and pledge allegiance to it.

I took an oath 54 years ago this coming November, that I would support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same.

I do NOT support the usurper in office now, nor his cabinet,DOD,DOJ,DOE, FDA ect.

Don't you dare presume to tell me what I should or should not pledge allegiance to!



I have unwavering faith in that oath and its values in protecting the Free Agency of all men women and children of this nation, past, present and future!

Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12295 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 10:04 pm to
Pledging to a flag is kind of silly.

The Under God thing is also a political thing added in modern times.

It also kind of creeps me out to see a bunch of kids mindlessly reciting the pledge, seems like a lot of indoctrination going on with that.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 10:18 pm to
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I'll pledge allegiance to what I damn well please!


Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39849 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:19 pm to
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Like I said, we can only take so much. Then, change will happen. His will be done.
What does this even mean?

quote:


You mean, passing down the time honored, tried and tested and proven ideals and beliefs that made this country the greatest on earth?
The country is markedly better right this second than it has been at almost any time since its founding. I'm sorry you're pining away for a halcyon yesteryear that never even existed.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
32151 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:37 pm to
What Themole said.

Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
18489 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:37 pm to
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We were "failing those ideals" much more bigly when we were much more godly. Ever heard of slavery? Ever heard of Jim Crow? 



Did you mention living in the past?
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:40 pm to
I have, for the past 20 years or so, said the pledge of allegiance without the word “indivisible.”

Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39849 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:43 pm to
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Did you mention living in the past?
The OP is literally appealing to supposed past greatness.
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:46 pm to
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I pledge allegiance, to the flag, for which it stands. One nation, UNDER GOD, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.


Ummmm,

to the United States of America.......

I don't pledge allegiance to any other flag. You forgot that part.
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
18489 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:46 pm to
And you're still bringing up slavery and Jim Crow... The lib go to when they can't figure out why certain segments of the population still can't rise above their same skinned brethren that recently came from the same continent
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:51 pm to
quote:

The country is markedly better right this second than it has been at almost any time since its founding. I'm sorry you're pining away for a halcyon yesteryear that never even existed.


fricking STUPID ignorant comment.
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