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re: The one huge major divide amongst Conservatives

Posted on 11/4/25 at 7:50 am to
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
4103 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 7:50 am to
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tearing the Right apart.


The left is obsessed with projection & wish casting
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10500 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 7:51 am to
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I think it's a more significant issue than you think.


but not as significant as you hope
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13265 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 7:52 am to
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but not as significant as you hope


O.k.

Moron.
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
5593 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 7:53 am to
A friend of Israel is my friend. An enemy of Israel is my enemy - God

Build your Military and Economic Policy towards Israel around that.

While you're doing that, deport Islamist and do it soon.

President Trump is right about.........everything.

This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 7:54 am
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68769 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 7:56 am to
Correct. Epstein and other things unrelated to Israel demonstrated the Trump hypocrisy…
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97730 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 7:58 am to
You were dead silent the last 4yrs on JE

Talk about a hypocrite
Posted by Dickaroos
Nunya
Member since Feb 2013
793 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:38 am to
Never in my life has anyone brought up Israel in debate or conversation. It’s a small loud minority that keeps bringing up this topic to sew division. Mainly social media influencers. People in the real world don’t give a flying frick
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
3155 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:47 am to
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Did they hire podcasters to be the head of the FBI that talked about exposing all of this stuff or no?
Of course the lead, "I'm not a democrat, I'm a centrist" of the board would come in with the exact same mind-numbingly stupid binary take as the other side: that calling out the hypocrisy of you violent leftists and your politicians means someone sides with the hypocrisy from the moderate Republicans who'll bend their own positions based off of Trump's obfuscations and their own party leaders. You want so badly for it to be a one-sided issue, but no matter how much you cope and seethe and lie to yourself, it's not. Your political party is just as responsible, if not more: The supposed manifests are chock full of the rich and elite - the base demographic of the modern democrat party.

The question was simple, and yet driveby, never answer Ttimid, nor you, king of the above-the-fray centrists, will answer it: Why is Trump the only one involved in "the coverup," when neocon uniparty Bush, god-man Barack Hussein Obama (for eight years), and good as new Biden also had the information and didn't release it? You both are incapable of answering because you are effeminate, emotional, self-loathing democrat males who throw logic and reason out the window. Your emotions quite literally won't allow you to speak truth.

Why not sack up and call it like it is: They're all complacent in covering it up, if there's something to be covered up. We know why you won't: Doing so would actually hold your emotions and low intellect accountable. You'd have to answer with the truth, and you hate the truth because you're an intolerant idealogue. When you can truthfully admit that even your own democrat presidents and politicians didn't unveil the supposed "cover up" during their decades of rule, then you've started down the road of being able to think and reason like a grown man.

But you won't. You can't. How "centrist" of you. I'll give you this: You differ from your low iq, hysterical counterparts in the sense that at least you sometimes come back and attempt to answer for your lunacy. Tboy is a spineless coward like most democrat males circa 2025 are. You are delusional people and change will never come as long as you think in binary terms from downloading your propaganda like a good little robot.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35451 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:53 am to
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podcasters


While technically true, this is intellectually dishonest.

It would be like hiring Nick Saban as your head coach and then someone says you hired "a sports broadcaster"
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74725 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:54 am to
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So the pedo coverup is no big deal already?


well, we know for sure your side is happy to cover for Pedo’s that’s for sure.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76333 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:58 am to
It's a issue but what you see as "tearing apart" is just better clarity on the facts. It's one sides panic in seeing this you ascribe the term.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21730 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 8:59 am to
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It's not even a divide. America First vs. Israel First is pretty simple. The latter contingent is all but dead


Only a barking seal simpleton would frame the conservative discussion this way, no matter how many fellow barking seals you get to upvote you.

How and when to exert international power and influence and when to remain neutral is an evergreen topic for every party in every generation.

The highly simplistic view by some that the U.S. can sit on the sidelines of global power politics except when the hordes are at the gate, or inside the gate, is just not remotely realistic.

And it’s absurd that Israel is put to a purity test that no other ally must pass.

There is nuance in this discussion that your black and white view cannot or will not comprehend.
Posted by SemperFiDawg
Member since Sep 2014
4334 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:03 am to
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Israel. And it’s the major topic that is tearing the Right apart.



It's a strawman being blown out of proportion. Greater than 90% of the Right support Israel and recognize the inherent evil represented by Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah and the like. It's only a small, deranged contingent of very vocal idiots (Carlson, Candace, Fuentes) who are fueling this false narrative. Pretty much every sane person on the Right and Left recognize they are a very small delusional fringe group and they are quickly finding themselves ostracized by conservatives and rightly so. We will not allow conservativism to be hijacked and held hostage by the loons as the DNC has been.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87347 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:03 am to
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Only a barking seal simpleton would frame the conservative discussion this way, no matter how many fellow barking seals you get to upvote you.

How and when to exert international power and influence and when to remain neutral is an evergreen topic for every party in every generation.

The highly simplistic view by some that the U.S. can sit on the sidelines of global power politics except when the hordes are at the gate, or inside the gate, is just not remotely realistic.

And it’s absurd that Israel is put to a purity test that no other ally must pass.

There is nuance in this discussion that your black and white view cannot or will not comprehend.
Great post.
Posted by SemperFiDawg
Member since Sep 2014
4334 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:13 am to
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America First vs. Israel First


And that's the false narrative everyone is swallowing. Two things can be true at the same time, namely What is good for America is good for Israel and what is good for Israel is good for America.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60488 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:15 am to
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Greater than 90% of the Right support Israel and recognize the inherent evil represented by Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah and the like.
damn, some of you are still clueless
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298316 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:16 am to
Israel is a non story here. People will vote regardless of that issue.


Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
2953 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:17 am to
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Israel. And it’s the major topic that is tearing the Right apart.


It's separating conservatives with an actual foreign policy from isolationists who apparently don't remember 9/11.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59279 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:20 am to
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So the pedo coverup is no big deal already?


What cover up? Be specific. Also…thoughts on Biden showering with his daughter? And a link to your outrage….you disingenuous piece of shite.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476091 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:20 am to
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It's separating conservatives with an actual foreign policy from isolationists who apparently don't remember 9/11.


I was coming to post that there are a few other major fractures, primarily neocons, but you are basically turning the Israel issue into neocon bullshite

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