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re: The Official Thread: Russia invades Ukraine
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:30 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:30 am to RollTide1987
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Yeah...that's utter bullshite knowing what we know about Putin and the history of Russia
There is no history under Putin of doing this. They are going to flatten cities even though they could. It also makes no sense to do this if you are trying to win people over. They are making public statements on top of that not to do it. It also aligns with what is happening on the ground. Stop watching American propaganda
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:32 am to xxTIMMYxx
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if you are trying to win people over
Too late. Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:34 am to Jbird
The large majority of people aren’t fighting back. The entirety of Ukraine isn’t totally against Russ either. That’s another lie
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:36 am to xxTIMMYxx
quote:Never claimed that.
The large majority of people aren’t fighting back. The entirety of Ukraine isn’t totally against Russ either. That’s another lie
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:36 am to xxTIMMYxx
Russia did this in Syria… Or was that western propaganda too?
Russia is an artillery based army… this is what they do… they’re incapable (or unwilling) of precision strikes like you see from the US.
Russia is an artillery based army… this is what they do… they’re incapable (or unwilling) of precision strikes like you see from the US.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:39 am to lowspark12
The US. Is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths with collateral damage. We even came up with the term. Their precision strikes worked pretty well destroying their hundreds of military infrastructure
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 10:40 am
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:55 am to xxTIMMYxx
Which news?
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:09 am to Sooner5030
It doesn't matter what Ukraine thinks when they were being in the process of becoming a member of Nato that Borders Russia which they believe is a national security threat to Russia. Russia feels threatened and the only way for them to react was an invasion. Had the corrupt Ukraine government not whore themselves as puppets for our corrupt government then this invasion might not have happened.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:09 am to lowspark12
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Russia is an artillery based army… this is what they do… they’re incapable (or unwilling) of precision strikes like you see from the US.
They don’t have our AirPower abilities but they do appear it be avoiding heavy weapons when possible.
I’d they were following their traditional doctrine, they would just level these cities, but they haven’t.
US army doctrine is built around firepower, and battles of annihilation. It’s US Grants enduring legacy.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 11:11 am
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:17 am to dchog
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It doesn't matter what Ukraine thinks when they were being in the process of becoming a member of Nato that Borders Russia which they believe is a national security threat to Russia. Russia feels threatened and the only way for them to react was an invasion. Had the corrupt Ukraine government not whore themselves as puppets for our corrupt government then this invasion might not have happened.
Yes, Russia felt threatened by NATO expansion while at the same time annexing and controlling Crimea from Ukraine. If another, more powerful country, takes some of your country by force, makes sense to seek out protection against future occurrences.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:19 am to Mickey Goldmill
I was just in the car with CNN on. They say Russia bombed a maternity hospital. Zelensky still screaming for a no-fly zone, but Ukraine still fighting valiantly. /end
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:21 am to Bunk Moreland
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A devastating Russian airstrike has destroyed a maternity and children’s hospital in the besieged Ukrainian city of Mariupol, according to Ukrainian officials.
Ukraine’s president Volodymyr Zelenskyy and local officials have posted videos on social media of what appears to be the devastated hospital, partly caved in and with walls blown out, the grounds littered with burnt-out vehicles.
ABC News is attempting to independently verify the attack.
Ukrainian authorities have said there are casualties and Zelenskyy wrote that there are children under the rubble.
Ukrainian officials have accused Russia of deliberately targeting the hospital.
Pavlo Kirilenko, the head of the Donetsk regional military administration, wrote on Facebook that a Russian aircraft targeted the hospital. Other officials have suggested there were multiple strikes.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:22 am to Lima Whiskey
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:23 am to Jbird
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Never claimed that.
Point me to where he claimed you did claim that.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:27 am to lowspark12
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Russia's not losing.
To claim this you need to define ‘winning’… you can make an argument Russian is ‘winning’ the military campaign (that is debatable), but military action is a means to a political end… what is the political goal Russia has in mind?
Neither you, I nor anyone else on this board knows for sure what the political motive is, so I will ignore that.
I'm talking actual combat situations. We see short videos and photos, but at the end of the day, Russia is either advancing or holding what they took. They haven't been pushed back, and they clearly haven't been hit on their own side of the border even once. They take some hits on personnel, but looking at the map, it's 100% a matter of when, not if, they will take their objectives.
I'm not talking about picking sides, I'm watching as a detached observer.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:28 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Yes, Russia felt threatened by NATO expansion while at the same time annexing and controlling Crimea from Ukraine. If another, more powerful country, takes some of your country by force, makes sense to seek out protection against future occurrences.
Russia annexing crimea all but ensured the rest of Ukraine would embrace western style liberal democracy… imo this has more to do with economics and politics and the ‘threat’ that posed to putins regime (Ukraine embracing western ideals is only a matter of time before it spreads to Russia and threatens his authoritarian rule) than it does NATO.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:31 am to Scoob
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I'm talking actual combat situations.
Using this logic, the US ‘won’ Afghanistan and Iraq.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:34 am to lowspark12
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U.S. intelligence officials claimed Tuesday that Vladimir Putin is ‘desperate’ to end the conflict over Ukraine, with some privately suggesting he could set off a tactical nuclear weapon in a Ukrainian city to get the job done.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:35 am to Mickey Goldmill
I'm sure they had reasons right or wrong but it is clear they don't want Nato expanding to the point where a Nato member borders Russia. It would be like an alternative version of Nato members like Russia, Belarus or Ukraine joined against the United States. And doing so are urging Canada and Mexico to join which borders the United States.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:51 am to dchog
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don't want Nato expanding to the point where a Nato member borders Russia.
So Russias solution is to then expand its boarders through military conquest thereby ensuring it boarders a NATO country?
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