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re: The Official Thread: Russia invades Ukraine

Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:17 am to
Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:17 am to
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oklahogjr



So you want us to pull for the nazis or the reds???

Which is it?
Posted by DownHome
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:21 am to
Not sure how accurate this is. Some guy on telegram posting this.

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I guess I'll have to keep publishing some short notes on the situation in the Ukraine, since it's all over the news and most of that is fake news. Overnight there was a ridiculous amount of noise about Zaporozhskaya AES, which is the largest nuke plant in Europe.

President Zelensky proclaimed that it is the new Chernobyl and that all of Europe will need to be evacuated. He was obviously drunk at the time.

What actually happened was:

At 11:11 AM Moscow time (about an hour ago) the authorities of Zaporozhye Region announced that Zaporozhskaya AES is under control of the Russian forces.

At 6:20 AM Moscow time the fire at the administrative building at Zaporozhskaya AES was extinguished with no casualties. It was probably set on purpose to create the media picture of "Europe's largest nuke plant on fire!"

At 5:36 AM Moscow time the International Atomic Energy Agency announced that the fire in the area of Zaporozhskaya AES did not affect any of the main equipment at the plant.

At 4:47 AM Moscow time president Zelensky goes live to announce that the Russians are trying to create a new Chernobyl. A likely story, that.

Between 3:51 AM and 3:59 AM Moscow time fire crews were on site putting out the fire. Apparently, there wasn't a lot for them to do.

Between 2:00 AM and 3:30 AM Moscow time there was a shootout at the power plant's administrative building. Somehow it resulted in a fire at the administrative building.

So much for a new Chernobyl.

In other news, this morning the Ukrainian army launched a rocket attack on the headquarters of the Ukrainian Nazi "Azov" battalion. Ten Nazis were killed in the attack. This was punishment for their refusal to follow orders.

In other news from this morning, Russia's media watchdog, Roskomnadzor, is tightening up control by shutting down sources of disinformation and enemy propaganda, including:

Facebook
Meduza
BBC
Deutsche Welle
Radio Free Europe
Previously, "Echo of Moscow" and "Dozhd" were shut down. What this means is that fighting fake news in Russia is going to get a lot easier. Of course, it doesn't mean anything for the rest of the world, which will still have to listen to fake news of Europe's largest nuclear plant being blown up by evil Russians.

Yesterday's negotiations between the Ukraine (the regime) and Russia resulted in an agreement on humanitarian corridors so that civilians can get out of cities where there is fighting going on. The problem with that is that the remaining Nazi battalions don't particularly obey orders from the regime and like to use civilians as hostages and human shields.

In all, the Russian demilitariazation campaign is going according to schedule. Ukraine's nuclear installations are passing under Russian control undamaged. Infrastructure damage is quite limited (unless it is military infrastructure, in which case it gets blown up).

As far as denazification—the other goal of the Russian campaign—people are scratching their heads trying to figure out what that means and how it might happen. On the one hand, the Russians know them by name, face, voice print and perhaps even fingerprints, so it's just a matter of hunting them down. On the other hand, the high-ranking Ukrainian Nazis and their families are currently fleeing the Ukraine and filtering out to the surrounding countries while simultaneously trying to organize terrorist attacks within Russia (unsuccessfully so far). To add spice, Ramzan Kadyrov, the intrepid Chechen chieftain, promised to track them down and kill them wherever they are. "We are everywhere in the world," he said.

The rest of the situation is as follows (as far as I can piece it together). Kiev is a complete and utter mess and is likely to remain that way. There are pockets of Nazi resistance in Kharkov, making it slow going. Mariupol is largely under control and may come under complete control sooner now that the Ukrainian troops are firing on their own. Nothing has happened in Odessa yet.
Posted by arktiger28
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:23 am to
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By poopoo’ing you mean trying to get the truth in the face of unrelenting propaganda. Some of us don’t operate in and live in fantasy land.


Not what I mean. I spend a lot of my free time each day listening my to intel and ex military guys trying to process reality from “fantasy land”. I’m questioning everything right now. I’ve just seen a lot of people downplaying legit evidence that Ukraine is putting up a good fight while being quick to believe anything that says the opposite.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:26 am to
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nazis


Speaking of...PBS blurs out the portrait of Stepan Bandera during an interview of the Mayor of Konotop yesterday.




https://mobile.twitter.com/NewsHour/status/1499525817776365574


Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:26 am to
Not to polish Russia's nob or anything, but based on the whole deal with the nuclear power plant last night maybe Russia had a point about wanting to secure Chernobyl quickly so Ukraine couldn't use it as a false flag or something.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:28 am to
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I’ve just seen a lot of people downplaying legit evidence that Ukraine is putting up a good fight while being quick to believe anything that says the opposite.




I think Russia underestimated the level of intel they would be getting from the US/NATO and how much of an impact the weapons we gave them had. I also think Russia had a poorly planned quick strike plan that failed, now its a conventional war and Russia has been largely winning even with some major logistical issues that SHOULD get ironed out.
Posted by DownHome
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:33 am to
Well we now have a B52 in the air over Romania. Let's poke the bear some more.

Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:38 am to
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Well we now have a B52 in the air over Romania.


Read this morning that there are 2 of them. Reportedly 1 has the transponder turned off.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:39 am to
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you want us to pull for the nazis or the reds???


I'm pulling for the Ukraine government....you know the one with the Jewish president that the people elected.
Posted by TexasForever
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:42 am to
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:45 am to
Noted.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:49 am to
That looks staged
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:50 am to
Good lord. That's about the most pro Putin summation to date.

Putin playing the Nazi card. Ridiculous.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:51 am to
Well apparently the nazi’s did not let civilians exit the city they control when ordered to do so, so the Ukrainian army shelled their HQ.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:57 am to
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Putin playing the Nazi card. Ridiculous.







I think there is enough smoke that it should definitely be looked at closer
Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:01 am to
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That looks staged



Source

Not saying it's fact. They shot down the plane, it's conceivable they also found & killed the pilot.
Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:05 am to


Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:06 am to
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I'm pulling for the Ukraine government...


Who incorporated 30 nazi armed forces into the army way prior to this invasion.


So I ask again... Am I to support the nazis or the reds?


Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:07 am to
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Russians With Attitude
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Ukrainian media report that Member of Parliament Nestor Shufrych has been arrested by Territorial Defense Forces for taking pictures of military equipment
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:10 am to
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I also think Russia had a poorly planned quick strike plan that failed, now its a conventional war and Russia has been largely winning even with some major logistical issues that SHOULD get ironed out.


100% Agree. Medium term I am not optimistic. Short term Ukraine has done well at utilizing their technology from the west. Long term Putin is going to have a Hell of a time keeping control. Especially with the economic problems he has going. That’s my honest assessment of things.
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