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re: The official 14 point US-Iran MoU deal has been released
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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And you said the reports yesterday are wrong.
No. I said no one knows.
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:18 pm to Jbird
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Meatsuits!
Meatsuits is this thread's "snitches."
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:18 pm to Schleynole
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So last week theyre the largest sponsor of terrorism in the world but this week they no longer sponsor terrorism. This cope is amazing.
You don’t think stopping sponsoring terrorism is part of the deal? That’s not cope….thats just ignorant and idiotic. Keep doubling down, though.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:19 pm to RohanGonzales
A ceasefire for 90 days and a mou are full capitulation just ask slowmeatsuitpro.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
I am
I am not going to argue against that. What is worrisome is that you can argue this "deal" is shaped largely by the political pressure the White House is under to get some stability with oil and in the region itself. Iran knows this, and can act accordingly as we get nearer to Labor Day and the kickoff to election season.
Their danger is in overplaying their hand, because they have no idea what Trump will do once that political pressure is gone. Although a big loss at the polls weakens his hands considerably.
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The ability to delay and extend in the 14 points is very one-sided for Iran.
No restrictions are set about their terror activity (despite what JD says), no details about their nuclear program are set, etc. All of that can be delayed indefinitely, too.
Being that they're the ones getting stuff and we are the ones demanding they act in way that hasn't been determined, I called it one-sided.
I am not going to argue against that. What is worrisome is that you can argue this "deal" is shaped largely by the political pressure the White House is under to get some stability with oil and in the region itself. Iran knows this, and can act accordingly as we get nearer to Labor Day and the kickoff to election season.
Their danger is in overplaying their hand, because they have no idea what Trump will do once that political pressure is gone. Although a big loss at the polls weakens his hands considerably.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Nobody was claiming the Taliban that took back over Afghanistan after our withdrawal was a different regime even though the meatsuits involved were different.
I am in fact claiming that because that is exactly the case, are you serious?
By way of most basic, elementary example - the Taliban is now actively hostile to its top foreign terror threat (ISIS-K) rather than supportive and allied with it (AQ).
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:21 pm to Lsut81
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So a little lip service from Iran is all he wants. Screw an actual agreemnt.
Shouldn’t you be happy about this. Aren’t you one of the ones saying Iran won with this agreement and we lost?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:22 pm to Deuces
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I mean, we did relentlessly bomb the shite out of their country and kill their leader, his son, and like 50% of their other leaders.
So murdering political leaders in an undeclared war is a W somehow? I guess he didn’t drone any American citizens like Obama did, but we did bomb a school and kill a bunch of kids. Totally worth it IMO.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:22 pm to Jake88
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You knew once Trump pussied out on the 2 week cease fire it was going to go TACO. Disappointing, truly.
Step 1: There is no deal. OMB
Step 2: ok there is a deal, but it’s awful. Iran won. OMB. (This is where you currently reside).
Step 3: well the deal looks like it’s working but the Iranians will back out.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:23 pm to BBONDS25
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It’s a terrible deal
quote:My post was a joke of how I expect ClappingSealTeam6 to respond.
It is?
However….
quote:Even if we pretend we aren’t laundering the money through those countries… why the hell are we brokering money for Iran? We bombed them to get investments for them?
We pay nothing. Irans neighbors loan them up to $300B.
quote:Like it was gone in the summer of 25? LINK
Nuclear program gone.
quote:Like it was until we attacked?
Strait open.
quote:By being able to buy more oil from Iran without sanctions and better infrastructure we are paying for?
China is weakened…
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Which part of that is terrible?
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:24 pm to Aubie Spr96
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So murdering political leaders in an undeclared war is a W somehow?
We haven’t declared war since 1943. I do love your true colors and pearl clutching over “murder” of “leaders” that slaughtered thousands of their own citizens. You’re such a useful idiot you mourn the Mullahs. All because OMB. Pathetic.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Any number of sources.
A luck shot from whom?
Three men and a drone.
An independent terror or breakaway group.
The IRGC.
quote:What would be the insurer's incentive to do that?
Clearly this was overblown or the insurance rates would have come down
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:24 pm to BBONDS25
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Aren’t you one of the ones saying Iran won with this agreement and we lost?
I haven't said Iran won anything... I've said that the whole Iran conflict wasn't worth it and will go down as Trump's biggest blunder of his presidency.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:26 pm to Lsut81
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So the Bloomberg leak 2 days ago was accurate...
Let me guess, the usual lambasted Bloomberg and anyone that dared to discuss their reporting.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:26 pm to BBONDS25
Everyone is missing the whole reason for the war. We get Iran to pinky swear (again) to not develop nuclear weapons
The "deal" states maintain the status quo on their nuclear program which we said they already have enriched uranium.
The "deal" states maintain the status quo on their nuclear program which we said they already have enriched uranium.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:26 pm to Aubie Spr96
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So murdering political leaders in an undeclared war is a W somehow?
We can't kill actual terrorists now?
I think you can simultaneously hold the position that the war was at best very questionable while also acknowledging that killing the people who directed targets be put on Americans' backs is completely in-bounds.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:26 pm to roadGator
There were a lot of "fake news" posts over it.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:27 pm to hawgfaninc
*negotiators
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:28 pm to COAUTiger
The only way this country will ever get back to what makes it great is if we are fricking forced at this point to not get involved in the Middle East or policing the world. If our oil reserves and arms are depleted to the point we have to just focus on defense, then good. shite will suck for a while but the national a whole will be better off in 30-40 years if we just mind our own fricking business
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:28 pm to BBONDS25
Idiotic was starting a useless war on the other side of the world. Idiotic was not realizing Iran could shut down the world oil trade. Idiotic was bombing a school. They won, theyre more emboldened than ever. If they don't stop what are we gonna do? They can inflict more economic pain on us than we're willing to take.
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