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re: The official 14 point US-Iran MoU deal has been released

Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23213 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:04 pm to
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So last week theyre the largest sponsor of terrorism in the world but this week they no longer sponsor terrorism. This cope is amazing.


They better abide by the rules or we'll *checks notes* lift sanctions and give them $300 billion once they yank us around enough that it becomes politically unsustainable
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2484 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:04 pm to
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We might as well put their name on the check.


Where do you get that Iran is getting a check for $300b? Or getting a check for anything apart, maybe, from their frozen assets?

A lot of jumping to conclusions on here.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478706 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:04 pm to
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Those 20 birds will offset all of the shite we just destroyed easily.

The stuff we destroyed is easily replaced with money.

The people we killed have already been replaced.

quote:

Their Navy now rests at the bottom of the Gulf a

Then why couldn't we open the SOH and get shipping back to 2025 levels?

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139724 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:05 pm to
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$100B-120B of assets are not obtainable due to sanctions.

and?

The sanctions were in place for a purpose. If the purpose dissolves, so too should the sanctions. Right?
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
91415 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:05 pm to
Ffs
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478706 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:05 pm to
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Or getting a check for anything apart, maybe, from their frozen assets?


I mean the frozen assets are $100B or so

58x what they had unfrozen via Obama's deal
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19786 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:05 pm to
More fake news
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87529 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:06 pm to
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The fanatical, radical Islamic regime gets that money



For anyone watching these exchanges, you should absolutely ignore anyone who refuses to differentiate between:

- injecting capital into an established, resilient regime built around decades of avoiding direct conflict (JCPOA era) via the use of proxies and walkbacks;

- capital inflows to that "same" regime staffed with different leaders from entirely different eras with different conflicts and insecurities and motives who saw their decades-old predecessors vaporized en mass over 10 days

Or, at minimum, do that assessment for yourself.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41423 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:06 pm to
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Your chart documents arrivals, not departures.


He doesn’t know what that means
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31528 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:06 pm to
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Iran just kicked our arse


As predicted months ago, Iran put a strangle hold on the world wide oil markets and had us by the balls.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42914 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:06 pm to
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Just listen to JD Vance as he explains everything clearly and a LOT more clearer than Trump himself


I don’t know why this is so hard to understand.

I guess It doesn’t fit the narrative of failure that many people are hoping for.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478706 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:06 pm to
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and?

The sanctions were in place for a purpose. If the purpose dissolves, so too should the sanctions. Right?


The purpose for the sanctions exists

The sanctions are being lifted due to our performance of the Iranian war of 2026

Iran is still run by the same radical Islamic regime who is the largest state sponsor of terror in the world. None of that changed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478706 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:07 pm to
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I don’t know why this is so hard to understand.

I guess It doesn’t fit the narrative of failure that many people are hoping for.


And you said the reports yesterday are wrong.

You're on Step 2 right now.

Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
91415 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:07 pm to
Slowfappingpro up to 155 posts of utter glee.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478706 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

For anyone watching these exchanges, you should absolutely ignore anyone who refuses to differentiate between:

- injecting capital into an established, resilient regime built around decades of avoiding direct conflict (JCPOA era) via the use of proxies and walkbacks;

- capital inflows to that "same" regime staffed with different leaders from entirely different eras with different conflicts and insecurities and motives who saw their decades-old predecessors vaporized en mass over 10 days

Or, at minimum, do that assessment for yourself.


Never go full SDV
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139724 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:07 pm to
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Then why couldn't we open the SOH and get shipping back to 2025 levels?
Marine Insurance was prohibitive
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
6576 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:08 pm to
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Nothing that we didn't have in January, or through the JCPOA before we withdrew.


According to Vance, Hezbollah and Hamas have to cease in order for Iran to get anything. Hezbollah and Hamas no longer being a threat is vastly different than what we had in January. If you don’t believe Vance or Iran than cool, I’m just saying if those 2 proxies cease it would be a huge benefit to the world
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 2:12 pm
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2484 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:08 pm to
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I mean the frozen assets are $100B


America has control over about $2 billion. Is the whole world a party to this deal?
Genuninely wondering how this works.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139724 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

The purpose for the sanctions exists
and a final agreement does not.

If the final agreement does not meet specs, the sanctions will remain.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478706 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:09 pm to
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Marine Insurance was prohibitive


Because of the threat Iran posed by shutting down the SOH

Now that the circular logic is over, we get back to my point being proven. Thanks.
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