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re: The official 14 point US-Iran MoU deal has been released
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:29 pm to Taxing Authority
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:29 pm to Taxing Authority
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Even if we pretend we aren’t laundering the money through those countries… why the hell are we brokering money for Iran? We bombed them to get investments for them?
The neighboring states sure seem willing to make these loans in exchange for an Iran with no nuclear weapon program. Why wouldn’t we want to help negotiate that?
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Like it was gone in the summer of 25?
Got him now?
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Like it was until we attacked?
Nope. With assurances that Iran will never try to tax ships going through again.
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By being able to buy more oil from Iran without sanctions and better infrastructure we are paying for?
Yikes. We aren’t paying for a thing. And I sure do bet there is a little bit about China in the stipulations. I really am surprised by this response. You’re too smart to miss basic stuff.
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Money is fungible. Even if it doesn’t go there, it frees up other funds to go there. Hoe many times have we funded terrorists through “humanitarian aid”?
Whether it does or not, we know a chunk will end up there.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:30 pm to Lsut81
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I've said that the whole Iran conflict wasn't worth it and will go down as Trump's biggest blunder of his presidency.
If what Vance stated was happening is true I disagree. We get an Iran with no nuclear weapons ever. We pay them zero. They get loans from their neighbors. What is the problem?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:30 pm to COAUTiger
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The "deal" states maintain the status quo on their nuclear program which we said they already have enriched uranium
Good point - and goes to the heart of the bullshite part of the intelligence community saying Iran is weeks away from having a nuclear weapon, or whatever they say.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:33 pm to COAUTiger
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Everyone is missing the whole reason for the war. We get Iran to pinky swear (again) to not develop nuclear weapons
If the argument here is that Iran will renege on a deal….then there isn’t any deal that would make you happy. It requires a ground war. Is that what you’re advocating?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:33 pm to BBONDS25
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They get loans from their neighbors.
Where are you getting that this will be paid in loans? Did Vance say that?
The clip of Vance I saw indicated it would be infrastructure investment, but I may have misunderstood him.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:34 pm to BBONDS25
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If what Vance stated was happening is true
If, yeah a huge fricking if... Like I posted above where you claimed I said Iran was winning, there is no final agreement and Trump said he doesn't have a timeline for one.
The MoU states that Iran will make their best efforts
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What is the problem?
13 Dead Service Members
4.3% Inflation
1.50 more a gallon in gas for 3 months
All that for a "best effort" when we were told over and over and over again that we obliterated their nuclear program June 2025.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:34 pm to BBONDS25
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With assurances that Iran will never try to tax ships going through again.
Iran wasn't taxing ships before the war started. Hth
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:34 pm to JimEverett
Trump needs a big shiny and GOLD cuck chair!
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:34 pm to BBONDS25
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We get an Iran with no nuclear weapons ever
Ever is a long time. Trump will be gone in two years.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:34 pm to COAUTiger
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The "deal" states maintain the status quo on their nuclear program which we said they already have enriched uranium.
It says they maintain status quo for a period of time. It also states that once all of the stipulations are agreed upon they will dismantle their nuclear arms process forever. Did you read the entire agreement or just what you saw on cnn?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:35 pm to JimEverett
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Where are you getting that this will be paid in loans? Did Vance say that?
Probably a combination of equity and debt investments.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:35 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Ever is a long time. Trump will be gone in two years.
If things the thought process there is literally no deal that can be made. Is that your assertion?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:36 pm to Schleynole
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Iran wasn't taxing ships before the war started. Hth
Correct. They have threatened many times. That won’t happen again. I notice you skipped the rest of my post. Not surprised.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:38 pm to BBONDS25
quote:That seems such a tall order. In fairness, it's almost impossible to read when one is in midst of a conniption fit seizure.
Did you read the entire agreement
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:38 pm to Lsut81
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If, yeah a huge fricking if... Like I posted above where you claimed I said Iran was winning, there is no final agreement and Trump said he doesn't have a timeline for one. The MoU states that Iran will make their best efforts
Perfect. Then this really isn’t a deal and you shouldn’t bitch about it, right?
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13 Dead Service Members
That is awful for those families.
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4.3% Inflation
So less than 1 percent above average inflation. With a stock market through the roof.
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1.50 more a gallon in gas for 3 months
Well it was one of those 3 month forever wars.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:38 pm to BBONDS25
Its Trump's deal. We know if the Democrats take the White House in 28 they are going to tear this deal up and throw it in the trash. There's no guarantee a future Republican president will follow through on it either.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:39 pm to BBONDS25
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The neighboring states sure seem willing to make these loans in exchange for an Iran with no nuclear weapon program. Why wouldn’t we want to help negotiate that?
Which ones are those? To be named later?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:40 pm to Lsut81
quote:You don't do contracts do you?
The MoU states that Iran will make their best efforts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 2:40 pm to JimEverett
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Where are you getting that this will be paid in loans? Did Vance say that?
The agreement references “financing” which I took to generally mean loans. Which would make Vance’s comment about gulf states “investing” make sense. It isn’t a gift of cash. It is a loan/investment.
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