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re: The more I listen to JD Vance the more comfortable I am with MAGA

Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:30 am to
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
12777 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:30 am to
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I suppose he's young enough to change his public persona again and possibly win in 2036.


this, coming from you, makes me feel more confident he'll be a shoe-in in 2028.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
16257 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:33 am to
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I am going to listen to some of that and the Tim Dillon pod

You seriously need to watch those two podcasts. He definitely doesn't sound like a rehearsed politician in those podcasts, and he even lets a F-bomb or two slip out while just shooting the breeze with Theo.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:33 am to
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This could cause a civil war (that the far Left will lose) and cause the Blue wave of 2026 to not be fruitful, but it would end there.

The apparatus is already moving. The LAT/Wapo non-endorsements weren't random. CNN is openly moving to more moderate positions and sniping MSNBC. Hakeem Jefferies is smashing any talk of thwarting a peaceful transition of power to Trump.

The Far Left is going to be blamed for Trump winning, and rightfully so. That's why they picked Kamala. She was not chosen to win.


This is pretty reasonable and I tend to agree. But what will the radicals end up doing? Falling in line?

It will be an interesting shift. Putting radicals back in a box is very difficult historically
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477139 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:33 am to
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this, coming from you, makes me feel more confident he'll be a shoe-in in 2028.


Yes I am so wrong about this scenario. I have no receipts, either

Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76516 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:33 am to
Who else could they have picked slo? You think it was a plan with a purpose. I say it was a choice between only two.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:34 am to
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When a main pillar of the party is sex changes for kids, it’ll be a while until you return to “moderate”


indeed.

Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16412 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:35 am to
He’s a big part of why I’m happy to support trump

Trump will only have 4 years, 2 of which will be lame duck and 1 fraught with personal battles.

Vance is the future
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477139 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:36 am to
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But what will the radicals end up doing? Falling in line?

The Squad may make social media points, but they vote how they're told when it's time to vote.

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It will be an interesting shift. Putting radicals back in a box is very difficult historically

All they have to do is stop talking about them. When they are coordinated with the major media, they can just remove the discussion point entirely from the majority of public life.

Then only the fringe will be discussing it, and, in time, they'll be marginalized for focusing on that.

The whole "it's the economy stupid" putative focal point makes this strategy that much easier to unleash. All the other issues/talking points will fall by the wayside outside of the poles suffering from partisan brain rot.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477139 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:37 am to
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Who else could they have picked slo? Y

A bunch of people had they thought they were going to win.

I mean the common meme on here was Hillary of Michelle Obama. People still thought Michelle was going to replace Kamala after the nomination process was over

Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93373 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:38 am to
Black men ain't voting for Michelle in 28.

That ship has sailed.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89814 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:38 am to
I recently watched the town hall he did with Cuomo and the Dillon podcast. He killed it in both settings.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477139 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:39 am to
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Black men ain't voting for Michelle in 28.


Who said anything about Michelle running in 2028?

Only the braindead are still Obama-obsessed to think she's running.

Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93373 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:42 am to
Because they have a while litany of great candidates lined up behind her.. You know like Shiff, Gretchen, AOC, Abrams...
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110963 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:44 am to
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Black men ain't voting for Michelle in 28.


Someone posted a speech I think she gave somewhere yesterday. She’s many times more fingers on a chalkboard than even Kamala. There’s no way she could sustain an entire campaign cycle - or maybe I should say, there’s no way the electorate could of her.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:45 am to
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They're really not.


It depends on what you mean by powerful and in what way

The radical social agenda is absolutely more powerful in the mainstream / pop culture. Modern day wokeness is radical. It’s everywhere. We’ve got an entire slew of people who think trannys exist in every household and that they’re plentiful enough to where we should bend the knee to appease them. There’s more schizophrenics than fricking trannys. Actual trannys. Not the pretenders who want to be trendy.

The woke left is powerful enough to where even the reasonable Democrats in office can’t risk pissing them off. It’s similar to when Trump wouldn’t say he’d veto a national ban on abortion. You know that guy isn’t pro-life, but he can’t risk alienating the evangelicals.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42086 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:50 am to
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Your of awareness of the Democrat party is stunning. They may shift moderate but it won’t be in a four year span. The extremists in that party are too powerful and it would take a while to purge their influence.


The influence that needs to be purged is that of the Obamas
Posted by exdemocrat
Member since Aug 2020
192 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:50 am to
Do you think that Whitmer's Dorito video appeals to moderates?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477139 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:53 am to
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It depends on what you mean by powerful and in what way


I think a bigger issue is how you define "extremists"

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The radical social agenda is absolutely more powerful in the mainstream / pop culture. Modern day wokeness is radical. It’s everywhere. We’ve got an entire slew of people who think trannys exist in every household and that they’re plentiful enough to where we should bend the knee to appease them. There’s more schizophrenics than fricking trannys. Actual trannys. Not the pretenders who want to be trendy.

Yup, as I thought.

Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
38363 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:54 am to
JD will be a great VP. Not hidden like they did with Kamala

4 years of exposure and him doing well.. and then he can run in 2028 against newson
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477139 posts
Posted on 10/27/24 at 9:54 am to
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Do you think that Whitmer's Dorito video appeals to moderates?

I think it was cringe, but is being blown up as some sacreligious/Satanic play only by the fringe of her opponents, who were never voting for her.

By 2028 nobody who will/may vote for her will remember, nor will they care.
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