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re: The more I listen to JD Vance the more comfortable I am with MAGA
Posted on 10/27/24 at 12:03 pm to CAD703X
Posted on 10/27/24 at 12:03 pm to CAD703X
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nevermind she coordinated with the FBI to stage her own kidnapping.
Again, that, uh... interpretation of the facts will only resonate with people who won't vote for her.
Nobody who will/may vote for her will accept that version of the facts, nor will they care the echo chamber is promoting that version of their interpretation of the facts.
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Posted on 10/27/24 at 12:03 pm to SportTiger1
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why does he need to?
MAGA won't exist in 2036
Posted on 10/27/24 at 12:05 pm to dgnx6
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It’s us who are pushing Obama out all across the country,
This is redefining the argument.
Obamas campaigning for their party is not the same thing as the Obamas having this power/stated influence over the party.
You're citing an example of one thing to support an argument over a completely separate claim.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 12:08 pm to TN Tygah
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The woke left is real, and radical, and some are more radical than others.
The actual radicals are still a small part and the vast majority who are not will get in line when the narrative shifts and the actual radicals are ignored.
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When someone like Bill Maher starts getting labeled conservative, you know things are off the rails.
That's why Trump is going to win in 2024.
That doesn't imply it's a permanent state of the DEMs. That's the assumption that will lead to over-confidence we see in this very discussion ("a minimum of 12 years").
This is the right-left vacillation I have spoken about on here for more than a decade. The next move ends up left, but we swing back and forth and it moderates the polar push. Thinking that the polar state of either party is somehow a permanent thing is silly.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 12:13 pm to Mtwabp
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The intelligent, rational people in the world understand the internet doesn’t “forget” and her actions during covid and since aren’t going anywhere.
Tell me how much all the echo chamber rumors/claims about Obama are brought up by mainstream people today.
It was relegated to the area of the internet that still posts about it (like this thread) and it never leaves that area of the internet. So while you're correct that "the internet doesn't forget", it's only a very small subset in an echo chamber who this applies to.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 12:14 pm to SportTiger1
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so you're commenting before you've taken in the content that makes people excited for him ? Got it
People only got excited for JD on his recent podcast tour?
Posted on 10/27/24 at 12:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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quote:I suppose he's young enough to change his public persona again and possibly win in 2036.
JD will be president one day.
I'm not even going to bother to down-vote you. The stupidity of that statement is self-evident. JD is very likely to run and win in 2028.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 12:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
You will not exist in 2036
Posted on 10/27/24 at 12:47 pm to MidWestGuy
He'll likely run and have a decent shot at the GOP nomination, but winning looks doubtful now.
The economy is likely to get real shitty over the next 4 years and the country will ramp back up to redo 2020 in terms of ani-Trump support.
A little move to moderation and the DEMs should easily win in 2020.
The economy is likely to get real shitty over the next 4 years and the country will ramp back up to redo 2020 in terms of ani-Trump support.
A little move to moderation and the DEMs should easily win in 2020.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 12:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
I was thinking about that the other day. A Trump win may actually hurt his career.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 12:49 pm to pbro62
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You will not exist in 2036
Theoretically possible. Tomorrow isn't promised to any of us.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 12:49 pm to wfallstiger
JD Vance may very well be the best vice president not in a generation but in the modern era.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 12:51 pm to Bunk Moreland
I like how people are freaking out like my comments are anti-JD, when I said literally the same things to explain why RDS had to run this year.
I haven't even fully got into the looming MAGA civil war on the horizon once Trump is out.
I haven't even fully got into the looming MAGA civil war on the horizon once Trump is out.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 12:51 pm to oldskule
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JD will be president one day.
If Trump beats the fraud and wins, this is true. JD and Desantis will be the future of the America First party.
If Trump is cheated and Harris is fraudulently installed, we'll never have a legitimate election again. The only way JD would be President is after a national divorce where he presided over the Conservative States of America, and stood against the Liberal USSA.
This is it. In nine days we are remade or we are broken. This is the pinnacle of the great political battle for the future of our Republic. If this fails, only a very uncomfortable option remains...
Posted on 10/27/24 at 2:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Tell me how much all the echo chamber rumors/claims about Obama are brought up by mainstream people today.
So now your position is that information is shared and consumed the same way now, in 2024, that it was in 2008 and 2012? That if something isn’t “mainstream” then people aren’t going to know about it? That non-mainstream forms of information sharing haven’t increased exponentially since then, with no signs of slowing down 4 years from now?
That is potentially an even dumber take than your earlier one about the Obamas not being influential.
These are takes that only a stupid person could possibly have.
You are an objectively stupid person.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 2:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
You are *almost* entertaining.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 2:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Yes I am so wrong about this scenario. I have no receipts, either
Posted on 10/27/24 at 2:46 pm to Mtwabp
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So now your position is that information is shared and consumed the same way now, in 2024, that it was in 2008 and 2012?
Literally not what I said, but nice attempt at creating a straw man I guess
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That if something isn’t “mainstream” then people aren’t going to know about it?
By and large most people outside of the fringe still consume normal media and not alternative media, whether that normal media is consumed via traditional (tv, radio, etc.) or new (social media) methods.
This isn't a controversial take. I see daily melts about the MSM influence on here.
Posted on 10/27/24 at 2:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The actual radicals are still a small part and the vast majority who are not will get in line when the narrative shifts and the actual radicals are ignored.
Gonna be a big rebrand thats for sure especially if he wins the pop vote
Posted on 10/27/24 at 3:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Literally not what I said
It is the only logical conclusion to be drawn from your statement.
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but nice attempt at creating a straw man I guess
You not understanding what a strawman is only reinforces the fact that you are an objectively stupid person.
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By and large most people outside of the fringe still consume normal media and not alternative media, whether that normal media is consumed via traditional (tv, radio, etc.) or new (social media) methods.
You have stated trump is going to win the upcoming election.
According to normal media, trump is a racist, racist, hitler wannabe that is a threat to democracy. Harris an intelligent, accomplished VP that is going to fix the immigration and economic issues the country is experiencing under her counterpart.
In order for you to believe trump is going to win, you have to believe one of two options:
1. Voters are even more stupid than you are and will be choosing a facist to be president that will then never relinquish that power, or
2. The impact of normal media is nowhere near what you are stupid enough to believe it to be.
Which is it?
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This isn't a controversial take. I see daily melts about the MSM influence on here.
You mean people are lamenting obviously corrupt/terrible things on a message board?
You see daily comments about child sex trafficking on here too, an issue you have made abundantly clear you don’t believe exists. Attempt to reconcile that.
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