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re: The level of naivety regarding the Iranian conflict is disturbing
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:04 pm to somethingdifferent
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:04 pm to somethingdifferent
Bro, Iran can’t cause any harm to this country from way over there in the Middle East. They’re not our problem.
I kid, of course. That’s nowhere near my actual opinion. But I’ve seen it here almost word for word, and IMO it’s bewildering to see it.
I kid, of course. That’s nowhere near my actual opinion. But I’ve seen it here almost word for word, and IMO it’s bewildering to see it. 
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:07 pm to somethingdifferent
I posted how not to be naive in the OP. 20 pages of stupid naive responses followed. It's amazing
Some of you people are dense on this topic
How hard is it to understand that Islamic terrorists want to destroy the US, meaning YOU, and Iran has long been funding and organizing those efforts?
Seriously, how dense do you have to be to not understand this?
Some of you people are dense on this topic
How hard is it to understand that Islamic terrorists want to destroy the US, meaning YOU, and Iran has long been funding and organizing those efforts?
Seriously, how dense do you have to be to not understand this?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:First, that's not exactly true. Second, that doesn't change the current reality of Iran
We ( the CIA) created most Islamic terror groups
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:10 pm to somethingdifferent
quote:
How hard is it to understand that Islamic terrorists want to destroy the US, meaning YOU
Want in one hand and shite in another. Which one fills up faster?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:14 pm to RollTide4547
quote:They support Israel
The lefty media here is supporting President Trump now?
When Trump is doing Israel's bidding, they will glaze him for it
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:14 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
quote:He is a warmongering neocon spewing every one of Bill Kristol's talking points
you're just spewing MSM bullshite and claiming they are facts
Get this. . .he claimed earlier that he studied Islam at a graduate level.
And with what I am sure is an impressive education, all he has managed. . .
. . .is to arrive at the Bush administration's Iraq War justification
This guy is not a serious person.
He is not worth engaging further.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:19 pm to somethingdifferent
quote:
You don't think that would hinder the Iranian govt from funding and organizing terrorists? Of course it would. Don't be obtuse like SFP
Can you demonstrate to me that Iran is a worse sponsor of terror than numerous other countries around the world? Can you show me an amount of money that Iran has given to terrorist versus the amount that Saudi Arabia has given to terrorists? If you want to disrupt terror, we should kill all the Whabi Islamists in Saudi.
Being obtuse is acting like knowing the population of a country you want to destroy is unimportant.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:21 pm to RollTide4547
Democrats don't care. Whatever the cause they will fight the President and side with whoever or whatever is against the United States.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:21 pm to somethingdifferent
quote:
First, that's not exactly true.
What's not exactly true? Are you saying we don't fund terrorist groups or regime changes in other sovereign nations with rebel groups?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:30 pm to TigerBaitOohHaHa
Here's the entire post you're attempting to quote. You mistakenly missed a few pieces...
"Here are the nine countries with nuclear weapons. Russia, The United States, China, France, The United Kingdom, Pakistan, India, Israel, and North Korea.
The emboldened countries, in their own way are just as socially and culturally primitive and barbaric as Iran.
The concern we all have is that Iran will nuke Israel, the same way Pakistan will nuke India, and India will nuke Pakistan, and North Korea will nuke South Korea, and Israel will nuke Iran.
Just look at all the nuclear war those cavemen have caused. Countless millions have died because of them.
In the history of mankind, up to 250,000 people have been killed by nuclear weapons. Not one of those deaths were a result of those emboldened countries.
Now I don't endorse Iran having nuclear weapons, but I don't endorse Israel having them either. Even without nuclear weapons, Israel is the biggest baddest motherfricker in the region, and they have the United States on speed dial. What could Israel possibly need with nuclear weapons? What's Israel's responsibility in decreasing nuclear tensions in the region? Why is Israel not being pressured to enter into a non-proliferation agreement?
Those are rhetorical questions. Most of us know why, and it's not because they live under constant threat".
"Here are the nine countries with nuclear weapons. Russia, The United States, China, France, The United Kingdom, Pakistan, India, Israel, and North Korea.
The emboldened countries, in their own way are just as socially and culturally primitive and barbaric as Iran.
The concern we all have is that Iran will nuke Israel, the same way Pakistan will nuke India, and India will nuke Pakistan, and North Korea will nuke South Korea, and Israel will nuke Iran.
Just look at all the nuclear war those cavemen have caused. Countless millions have died because of them.
In the history of mankind, up to 250,000 people have been killed by nuclear weapons. Not one of those deaths were a result of those emboldened countries.
Now I don't endorse Iran having nuclear weapons, but I don't endorse Israel having them either. Even without nuclear weapons, Israel is the biggest baddest motherfricker in the region, and they have the United States on speed dial. What could Israel possibly need with nuclear weapons? What's Israel's responsibility in decreasing nuclear tensions in the region? Why is Israel not being pressured to enter into a non-proliferation agreement?
Those are rhetorical questions. Most of us know why, and it's not because they live under constant threat".
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:35 pm to The Pirate King
quote:
Except the fact modern warfare is 100% different than 2003 and not a single troop has to step foot in Iran.
Step 1: Sky Coup
Step 2: ?????
Step 3: peace and prosperity for all
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:42 pm to somethingdifferent
quote:
The OP is showing precisely how to not be naive
You're argument form of you're right because everyone else is wrong is an invalid one.
quote:
Let me know when you have an actual response
I addressed your points directly, you are simply unwilling or incapable of keeping comments in context to have a useful discussion.
You are being a useful tool of the fear mongers. I'm sorry you don't understand how we got to where we are.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:57 pm to somethingdifferent
quote:
Depends on the deal but if it is part of the mitigation strategy, then I'm all for it. Whatever continues to fight terrorism and keep them at bay - over there
So a keyboard warrior cheering for war against innocent people while wearing a blindfold to the fall of your own homeland.
Y’all are scared to fight for your own homeland that’s been invaded and controlled by foreigners
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:13 pm to somethingdifferent
What I’m saying is that Iran has zero capacity to bring a fight to US soil, so saying “fight them there, or fight them here” is a stupid argument.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 6:46 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:So just relax and not bother state sponsors of terrorism. Not very smart
Want in one hand and shite in another
Posted on 6/19/25 at 6:48 pm to Roaad
quote:Still untrue
He is a warmongering neocon
quote:I know nothing about this person. But I do know about Islamic terrorism
Bill Kristol's talking points
quote:Affirmative
he claimed earlier that he studied Islam at a graduate level
quote:Not exactly. First, the intel that Bush received was correct. Second, that situation was different than Islamic terrorism in general
is to arrive at the Bush administration's Iraq War justification
quote:Let me know when you want to deal with the facts in the OP
This guy is not a serious person
Posted on 6/19/25 at 6:48 pm to somethingdifferent
quote:
Whatever you think about Israel is irrelevant
Naivete is ignoring Israel's role in 2003. Israeli Intelligence is utterly untrustworthy.
Posted on 6/19/25 at 6:48 pm to mule74
quote:Why would you need that? We know Iran is. That's all we need to know
Can you demonstrate to me that Iran is a worse sponsor of terror than numerous other countries around the world?
quote:Has nothing to do with anything
the population of a country
Posted on 6/19/25 at 6:49 pm to oklahogjr
quote:Oh boy. First SFP. Now you.
Are you saying we don't fund terrorist groups or regime changes in other sovereign nations with rebel groups?
I'm not denying that. What's your point?
Posted on 6/19/25 at 6:51 pm to Harry Boutte
quote:Which is of course, not what the OP is.
You're argument form of you're right because everyone else is wrong is an invalid one
quote:Tell me what point I didn't respond to
I addressed your points directly, you are simply unwilling or incapable of keeping comments in context to have a useful discussion
quote:What I'm saying is a fact and it's not fear mongering. We have real enemies who are working to destroy us. They don't care about politics and they are funded and supported by Iran. That is a fact.
You are being a useful tool of the fear mongers
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