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re: The FBI raid was after the CIA binder at Mar a Largo per Jesse’s report

Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:31 pm to
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:31 pm to
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that the CIA with the aid of foreign intelligence agencies, targeted 26 Trump officials during the 2016 campaign and set up meets with them, then informed the FBI of said meets.


This has been known for years. All of the guys that met with PapaD and the other Trump people were either CIA or MI6 agents. It was all a honeypot operation. Then there was Mifsud from Malta. Mifsud was used as "evidence" of Trump people meeting with Russians, but there was one problem with that. Turns out Mifsud was working for CIA, thereby giving further proof that it was all one big trap. Mifsud has since disappeared completely.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:32 pm to
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If Trump had proof the CIA was behind the Russian collusion story why would he not make it public?


Exactly. If he had a binder of proof, then he would declassify it and publish it. Not bring it to his house and do nothing with it.
Posted by RAB
Member since Aug 2019
989 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:33 pm to
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If Trump had proof the CIA was behind the Russian collusion story why would he not make it public?


This will never happen. Trump would be at room temperature if this was even attempted. Notice how he went from complaining about Obama tapping his phones in 2016 to saying nothing about it while in office.
Posted by TidenUP
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:34 pm to
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It's done under the guise of protecting national security,



The use of the terms "state secrets" and "sources and methods" is the cover that the Deep State uses to protect itself. Somehow courts allow that bullshite.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:38 pm to
Trump wasn't president in 2016, so he didn't have 26 cabinet members. I'm confused?


I feel like Maxine Waters in kindergarten.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8380 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:42 pm to
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I think he tried to declassify, but the machine is set up to keep the damaging info from being released.


As president, he had sole authority to declass anything. He currently doesn't need to release it, that is how fricked up the cases against him are.

There is such a shite show going on in our government, it is 2008 subprime mortgage crisis level bad.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 8:44 pm
Posted by Sharlo
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Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:47 pm to
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quote:What did the binder have in it? Da Joe Brady Offense


??
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:55 pm to
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Trump wasn't president in 2016, so he didn't have 26 cabinet members


Wasn’t that the justification for going after Flynn, that he didn’t have the clearance to reach out to the Russians?

I’m going off of memory.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:00 pm to
I read the Twitter Link and there it says 26 "associates". So that makes much more sense.

But you're right, they fabricated that call against Flynn.

This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 9:32 pm
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14061 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:07 pm to
The FBI who raided Trump were not the same agents who he was working with who gave him the lock to put on the door to the room he secured the documents in.

Word was it was some of the same FBI who raided Roger Stone...

They were definitely after something. Rumor a long time ago it was paperwork on the Crossfire Hurricane horseshite.
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3037 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:07 pm to
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f Trump had proof the CIA was behind the Russian collusion story why would he not make it public?


Because he's letting them pull their own pants down.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:13 pm to
Trump Won
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95745 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:13 pm to
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Because he's letting them pull their own pants down.


So many Biden jokes to be made there.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22942 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:17 pm to
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Exactly. If he had a binder of proof, then he would declassify it and publish it. Not bring it to his house and do nothing with it.


This is so retarded. NARA was working with trump on retrieving files. Then NARA goes dark and cuts off communication. thie FBI apparently gets involved.

All to get the files.

Yall act like Trump was never going to release them? He never had the chance.

The FBI fricking raided his residence.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
6985 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:18 pm to
what I dont understand is why there would be anything to declassify. What I mean is, if Obama, Clinton, Clapper, whoever concocted a plan like this, why on earth would they use any traceable channel to go about it?

If youre going to pull off some shite like this, wouldnt it be financed by private money and completely off of any record? What is being declassified? Im seriously asking. Whistleblower reports?
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14213 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:22 pm to
Bongino has covered almost everything there is to know on this. CIA and foreign intelligence set up meetings with people in Trump orbit claiming to have dirt on Hillary from Russia in order to build a reason to surveil Trump associates. The one step rule allows you to surveil people that are a step away from he subject of the warrant, so this opened the door to surveil on Trump. It was all an attempt to build a collusion case against Trump to align its the dossier.

I personally believe the plan was to have President Hillary later pull the plug and jail Trump for collusion…which would’ve stuck if she controlled the executive. That would punish him for running and going after them all.

Ask yourself why would they do all of this since at the time they thought he had no chance of winning? If Trump has hard evidence of this he needs to get it out there….but woul be better served to hand it to a Trump appointed AG.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 9:24 pm
Posted by GoblinGuide
Member since Nov 2017
1624 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:30 pm to
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You don't play your ace card until you need it?

Maximum damage would be if/when he is ever dragged into a real court, October surprise, January 21 2025, etc.

Dropping that shite in summer of 2022 gives away all leverage and will be forgotten by November 2024


Oh, is this the new Kraken?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31898 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:34 pm to
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You don't play your ace card until you need it? Maximum damage would be if/when he is ever dragged into a real court, October surprise, January 21 2025, etc. Dropping that shite in summer of 2022 gives away all leverage and will be forgotten by November 2024


…..why not release it in October 2020?
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:44 pm to
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Just because the President declassifies something doesn't mean it is released.


When the president, any sitting president, declassifies something it is declassified. He has plenary authority as CinC to determine what is and is not classified. Period. The administrative state can try to claim some review process or other check, but legally they are wrong.

No other person has that authority. If a general determines something should be declassified it has to be reviewed, not so with the president.
Posted by Captain Poopie Pants
Pag Island
Member since Jun 2020
466 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:44 pm to
Because the Durham investigation was going on and he couldn’t release Crossfire Hurricane documents until after the special counsel investigation wrapped up.

So they raided Mar-A-Lago before the Durham investigation ended to beat him to the punch.
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