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re: The devastation of Helene has laid bare the fricked up priorities of the US government
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:39 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:39 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Oh look! A claim no one made. Great job arguing it down though! Great job!
Cutting Homeland Security will also not make a dent in our spending issue.
This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 9:40 am
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:40 am to SlowFlowPro
I can't even....
You are undoubtedly the biggest fckg loser on this site.
You smell your own farts and critique them like wine.
You are undoubtedly the biggest fckg loser on this site.
You smell your own farts and critique them like wine.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:40 am to beerJeep
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Literally required, by law, every year.
Posted this years and every previous years…
You posted a continuing resolution for spending, not a comprehensive budget.
Matt Gaetz would be very upset with you.
NYT article on this
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In October, explaining on the floor of Congress his motion to vacate Mr. McCarthy as speaker, Mr. Gaetz cast his vote as a demand to end that dysfunction. “I think that not passing single spending subject bills is chaos,” he said. “I think the fact that we have been governed in this country, since the mid-90s, by continuing resolution and omnibus is chaos.”
He lamented that “we have been out of compliance with budget laws for most of my life.” In these moments, Mr. Gaetz sounded like a good-government budget wonk, pleading with politicians to simply follow their own rules.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:41 am to Taxing Authority
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Oh look! A claim no one made
Uh, you quoted
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And $150B is a rounding error on that issue.
Which was in response to
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You need to cut spending.
So you're wrong.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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That's a funding bill, not a budget. It didn't even fund the government for a full year.
It’s, quite literally, the last budget enacted and signed by the US legislative branch and approved by the president of the United States.
The budget that the federal government is required, by law, to pass and enact yearly by congress as stated in Article 1 Sec 8 of the US Constitution.
“The belt isn’t reallllll!!! It doesn’t existtttt!!!! My actions will never have consequences down the line!!!! Today is forever!!!”
The mind of a 5 year old is something to behold.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:43 am to Taxing Authority
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Oh look! A claim no one made. Great job arguing it down though! Great job
His sunday morning fiascos are fun to watch.
!
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:43 am to udtiger
Time to cut the military budget and start spending money on infrastructure. I keep hearing about how powerful these foreign countries are that we give so much tax payer money and military equipment to. Surely if they are as strong and independent as the trolls claim then they can stand on their own and purchase what they need.
This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 9:46 am
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:43 am to udtiger
YESTERDAY the feds called up a Tennessee national guard unit for deployment to the Middle East. That should tell you where properties are. Instead of helping with flooding, the feds decided they were needed over seas.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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And $150B is a rounding error on that issue.
$150B “rounding errors” is what got us here.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:44 am to beerJeep
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It’s, quite literally, the last budget
It's not a budget, it's a spending bill.
It funded government until September 30
Look what they just did
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On September 25, the U.S. Senate voted 78-18 to pass a bipartisan Continuing Resolution (CR; H.R. 9747) to extend federal spending and avert a government shutdown through December 20, 2024. The U.S. House passed the measure unanimously by voice vote on September 25, just days before the end of Fiscal Year (FY) 2024 on September and beginning of FY 2025 on October 1.
If we had an annual budget, we wouldn't need 2-3 funding bills per year. It would all be taken care of in...the budget.
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The budget that the federal government is required, by law, to pass and enact yearly by congress as stated in Article 1 Sec 8 of the US Constitution.
And we haven't done that since 1996 or so.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:45 am to SlowFlowPro
When? I don’t hear a thing from FEMA or fed gov on this. Only that Kamella said people of color should get aid first.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:46 am to Taxing Authority
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Oh look! A claim no one made. Great job arguing it down though! Great job!
Damn it Tax. The sky is brown and you know it!
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:46 am to Houag80
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ou smell your own farts and critique them like wine
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:49 am to BCreed1
I hate that these people get elected and literally give zero shits about the needs of the people.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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It's not a budget, it's a spending bill.
Tomato tomahto.
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It funded government until September 30
So… did it…. Pray tell…. Show how much tax revenue was coming in…. And the various expenditures going out for a given time frame?
Sounds kinda budgety to me
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If we had an annual budget, we wouldn't need 2-3 funding bills per year. It would all be taken care of in...the budget.
So the government is inefficient and does something several times they could do once if they were efficient.
Sounds like a function of government to me.
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And we haven't done that since 1996 or so.
Again, we’ve done it yearly as required in art1sec8. As you have pointed out, we’ve actually done it MORE often than required because our government just loves talking a lot about what they could be doing rather than just doing.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:50 am to BigPerm30
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$150B “rounding errors” is what got us here.
Again, $150B is about 1.25 MONTHS of SS spending.
Military
SS
Medicare
Medicaid/ACA spending
Fixing our spending requires taking aims at those 4 programs.
Any discussion of fixing our deficit not focusing on these 4 programs is a waste of time. A diversion/distraction (typically for partisan purposes).
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:50 am to SlowFlowPro
The spending point you are making aren’t wrong, but the entire point is optics, and the larger point that the US government doesn’t care about its own people as much as foreign interests.
And you could argue the foreign interests are at a root a means of providing national security for the domestic population, which I think is bullshite, but regardless of that, is that point being effectively marketed?
Add to this situation, the people in Maui getting like $700 for their devastation and it’s a massive slap in the face. Meanwhile illegal aliens get thousands in assistance
It’s an optics and marketing disaster, and you somehow feel justified in pulling off high level technicality arguments when the regime itself isn’t even capable or interested in doing so, so it effectively is screaming into the wind.
And you could argue the foreign interests are at a root a means of providing national security for the domestic population, which I think is bullshite, but regardless of that, is that point being effectively marketed?
Add to this situation, the people in Maui getting like $700 for their devastation and it’s a massive slap in the face. Meanwhile illegal aliens get thousands in assistance
It’s an optics and marketing disaster, and you somehow feel justified in pulling off high level technicality arguments when the regime itself isn’t even capable or interested in doing so, so it effectively is screaming into the wind.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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Military SS Medicare Medicaid/ACA spending
Why do you put military at the top when it’s the least expensive of the 4?
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:53 am to beerJeep
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Tomato tomahto.
No. They're nothing alike.
They're not even proper spending bills (see: Matt Gaetz)
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So… did it…. Pray tell…. Show how much tax revenue was coming in…. And the various expenditures going out for a given time frame?
It authorized spending, because it was a spending bill.
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So the government is inefficient and does something several times they could do once if they were efficient.
Sounds like a function of government to me.
The reason we don't pass budgets is b/c of government, yes.
Nobody is defending government in this scenario.
I'm just here to make sure we use the right words that reflect reality.
We do not pass budgets. We pass spending bills and continuing resolutions.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:53 am to SlowFlowPro
ohh here we go. SFP justifying this administrations Anti-American actions again. Again, you’re a fricking POS.
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