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re: The devastation of Helene has laid bare the fricked up priorities of the US government

Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:29 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:29 am to
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He's stating there is not enough money allocated and money that was used in Ukraine could have been money allocated for OUR OWN states.

And the point is that what money was allocated to Ukraine has no impact on DHS, and nobody has ever shown this impact.
This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 9:29 am
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38465 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:30 am to
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Yes, it is. Show me the last federal budget. It will be written down

2024 fed budget
Yearly enacted federal budgets

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Find me the last budget, then. Prove to me this comprehensive budget has existed recently by pointing to the Congressional act and Presidential signature approving it.


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So you're refusing to answer the question?


Go ask diddy for some of his baby erl. I just went in dry.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:30 am to
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Slow isn't sensible. He knows damn well what is being stated and he just gets his rocks off on being a douche.
Yeah. I refuse he’s too stupid to see that spending is indication of priority in an (allegedly) representative government.
Posted by clacker
kamrad cooked!
Member since Aug 2024
904 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:30 am to
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Our federal government and its spending do not exist in a reality where "the same amount of money exists", so that's a bad standard.

Again, you just keep showing the conflation by using bad framing.

Wrong.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:31 am to
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You need to cut spending.

And $150B is a rounding error on that issue.

As I already stated in this thread, that's 1.25 months (or so) of SS outlays.

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You just proved my point.

Just as growing our GDP won't get us out of this debt situation, looking at microtransactions like the money going to Ukraine won't, either.

That's exactly why pointing out this partisan conflation is important.

It's a political diversion to detract from the real conversation.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:32 am to
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You gotta be just trolling.


Continuing resolutions are not a budget.

Our last true budget was probably in 1996. Almost 30 years ago.
Posted by clacker
kamrad cooked!
Member since Aug 2024
904 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:32 am to
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Just as growing our GDP won't get us out of this debt situation, looking at microtransactions like the money going to Ukraine won't, either.

That's exactly why pointing out this partisan conflation is important.

It's a political diversion to detract from the real conversation.


Wow.

Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6994 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:33 am to
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Yeah. I refuse he’s too stupid to see that spending is indication of priority in an (allegedly) representative government.


Exactly.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:33 am to
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And $150B is a rounding error on that issue.
Yet it’s almost twice what we spend on our own homeland security.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:34 am to
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What gets allocated indicates priority and focus.

Priority? No. DHS getting its usual amount indicates it's a normal part of our federal government and needs to be handled normally.

Focus? Sure you could describe it that way. When some externality like Ukraine (or the pandemic) happens, they will respond with specific responses. If you want to call that focus, that's fine.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:34 am to
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You know how to find your posts.

I do, and I know what I said. That was not what I said.
Posted by clacker
kamrad cooked!
Member since Aug 2024
904 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:35 am to
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I do, and I know what I said. That was not what I said.



Clown, you are a clown.

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:36 am to
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Priority? No. DHS getting its usual amount indicates it's a normal part of our federal government and needs to be handled normally.
That’s nice. Still doesn’t address the issue. But I fully understand why you don’t want to.

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Focus? Sure you could describe it that way. When some externality like Ukraine (or the pandemic) happens, they will respond with specific responses. If you want to call that focus, that's fine.
Oh look! A semantics distraction.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38465 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:36 am to
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Continuing resolutions are not a budget. Our last true budget was probably in 1996. Almost 30 years ago.


Literally required, by law, every year.

Posted this years and every previous years….

“Nuh uhhhh that’s not real”

Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30267 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:36 am to
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I will bet you $100 (pick the escrow holder) the feds spend a shite ton of money on these domestic issues. Over $1B.

OMG, a whole billion! Are you sure the Ukrainian midget can spare us some of our own tax money to help Americans? How about Kamala give the good people of Tennessee and North Carolina some of the billions she's given criminal migrants.
Posted by clacker
kamrad cooked!
Member since Aug 2024
904 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:36 am to
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Priority? No. DHS getting its usual amount indicates it's a normal part of our federal government and needs to be handled normally.


Posted by Kapitan
Belle Chasse
Member since Mar 2021
208 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:37 am to
All budgets come from the same place, our wallets. Do you comment to antagonize or because you actually believe what you are saying? Not sure which is worse. Don’t bother responding. I generally quit reading these after your input.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:37 am to
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2024 fed budget



That's a funding bill, not a budget.

It didn't even fund the government for a full year.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:37 am to
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Yet it’s almost twice what we spend on our own homeland security.


Cutting Homeland Security will also not make a dent in our spending issue.
Posted by clacker
kamrad cooked!
Member since Aug 2024
904 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:38 am to
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Cutting Homeland Security will also not make a dent in our spending issue.

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