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re: The devastation of Helene has laid bare the fricked up priorities of the US government
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:19 am to clacker
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:19 am to clacker
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This infinite pot sure as frick impacts my pay check.
Sure. That has nothing to do with OP.
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And why even "print" and keep tally?
It's scary to think, but at a certain point that may happen.
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If you send less money overseas, less money will need to be printed.
If you print the exact same and keep it in the USA, more projects could be completed here.
Sure, but you're describing a different system than what we have today, and OP is an argument based on the system that we have today.
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:19 am to BCreed1
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No it isn't.
Yes, it is.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:20 am to SlowFlowPro
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Your example does not reflect reality. That's the problem (and the basis of this conflation). In your example "you" can just make $50 (or whatever denomination) to give the crackhead, and you haven't had a $200 budget to spend on grocery in years, so you never "only" have $100.
I guess that’s our philosophical difference. Your belief that printing money doesn’t have any impact on the US and its taxpayers. Congress doesn’t have the balls to raise the tax rate so they print money, use it for bull shite (over seas wars, etc) and we all pay the hidden tax.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:20 am to SlowFlowPro
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And we don't use budgets.
Yeah we do. But because many in the government hold your train of thought, they don’t listen to it. They run all over it.
Doesn’t mean it isn’t there. Doesn’t mean it isn’t a zero sum game.
The government chooses to ignore reality and play the print moar money game.
THE BELT IS STILL frickING REAL. JUST BECAUSE THE CHILD GOVERNMENT WANTS TO PRETEND IT IS NOT THERE DOES NOT MEAN THE BELT IS NOT THERE.
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You can't ignore reality and pretend that's the paradigm over government spending to create this partisan conflation.
Saying there isn’t a budget and the belt isn’t real is ignoring reality. That would be you and the child government.
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No what's ironic is you ignoring reality and then posting as if your argument reflects it.
Nope. Again. Reality is real. Just because you want to ignore reality and be a 5 year old child who doesn’t understand that daddy will be home soon with his belt, doesn’t make it so.
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We don't use budgets anymore.
We do. the congressional budget office is real even though you don’t believe it exist
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We don't have "one pot" from which to spend anymore.
We do. But the 5 year olds in office ignore reality and don’t believe in daddies belt.
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Fedgov will print whatever it wants to to spend on whatever it wants to. The trillions we printed in 2020 and 2021 should have taught this lesson to everyone. What budget authorized those trillions? What programs/agencies did those trillions take money from?
Daddies belt is still real, child. And it is coming.
This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 9:21 am
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:20 am to SlowFlowPro
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Yes, it is.
No, it isn't.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:21 am to Taxing Authority
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SFP, ^— is why Ikraine gets brought up in any sensible conversation about how our government sets its priorities.
But, to bring it back to OP, how much has DHS (and FEMA, vicariously) had its budget negatively affected by the Ukraine money?
$0.00.
That's the conflation.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:22 am to SlowFlowPro
As opposed to the 100 billion + for Ukraine?
Fckg clown.
Fckg clown.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:22 am to Taxing Authority
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SFP, ^— is why Ikraine gets brought up in any sensible conversation about how our government sets its priorities.
Slow isn't sensible. He knows damn well what is being stated and he just gets his rocks off on being a douche.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:23 am to BigPerm30
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Your belief that printing money doesn’t have any impact on the US a
Strawman. Where did I say this?
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Congress doesn’t have the balls to raise the tax rate
Won't make a huge net difference due to Hauser's law. We'll still collect around 20% of GDP.
Cutting or raising taxes cannot fix this situation. Our GDP cannot grow to get us out of this debt situation.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:23 am to SlowFlowPro
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But, to bring it back to OP, how much has DHS (and FEMA, vicariously) had its budget negatively affected by the Ukraine money?
$0.00.
That's the conflation.
You cannot assert that.
If the same amount of money existed and none of it went to Ukraine, where else might it go? Might some of it go to FEMA?
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:24 am to SlowFlowPro
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Strawman. Where did I say this?
You have stated it over and over in this thread.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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But, to bring it back to OP, how much has DHS (and FEMA, vicariously) had its budget negatively affected by the Ukraine money?
$0.00.
That's the conflation.
No dick! He's stating there is not enough money allocated and money that was used in Ukraine could have been money allocated for OUR OWN states.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:26 am to SlowFlowPro
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Cutting or raising taxes cannot fix this situation. Our GDP cannot grow to get us out of this debt situation.
Exactly you fricking retard. You need to cut spending. For fricks sake. You just proved my point.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:26 am to beerJeep
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Saying there isn’t a budget and the belt isn’t real is ignoring reality.
Yes, it is. Show me the last federal budget. It will be written down.
Not a continuing resolution or a spending bill. I'm asking for a comprehensive federal budget. Find it for me.
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Just because you want to ignore reality and be a 5 year old child who doesn’t understand that daddy will be home soon with his belt, doesn’t make it so.
Find me the last budget, then. Prove to me this comprehensive budget has existed recently by pointing to the Congressional act and Presidential signature approving it.
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Daddies belt is still real, child. And it is coming.
So you're refusing to answer the question?
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:27 am to SlowFlowPro
You gotta be just trolling.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:28 am to clacker
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You cannot assert that.
Look at DHS's allocation of federal funds. Tell me how much federal spending has decreased, then. Should be easy.
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If the same amount of money existed
Our federal government and its spending do not exist in a reality where "the same amount of money exists", so that's a bad standard.
Again, you just keep showing the conflation by using bad framing.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:28 am to clacker
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You have stated it over and over in this thread.
Quote me, then.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:28 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:You're the one making the conflation. What gets allocated indicates priority and focus. Thats how spending works.
But But, to bring it back to OP, how much has DHS (and FEMA, vicariously) had its budget negatively affected by the Ukraine money?
$0.00.
That's the conflation.
I will over my lifetime spend $0 on Taylor Swift tickets. Because I do not care about Taylor Swift. The fact that I can easily afford Taylor Swift tickets and still buy groceries… has nothing to do with it.
This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 9:29 am
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:29 am to clacker
Dude is a hack. Does this in every thread he is in.
Posted on 9/29/24 at 9:29 am to SlowFlowPro
You know how to find your posts.
Silly
Silly
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