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re: The CIA is now sending out a message to the Iranian people ...

Posted on 2/24/26 at 5:34 pm to
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 5:34 pm to
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To do what?

What will be the point of this military action?

To end what the Mullahs started 47 years ago.

To end the financing of terrorism all over the world.

Payback for the countless lives and blood spilled in Lebanon ... not the least of which, the Marine barracks in Beirut. But all over the world.

To end them as our mortal enemies.

Annnnnnnd .... just for general f-ing principles because I f-hate the radical islamists and their false f-ing pedo prophet.

But anyways .... here's the translation. And oh, FU^K the shia Ayatollahs.

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Posted by BOHICAMAN
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 5:36 pm to
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So we only defend poor and innocent people in places with large oil deposits

Yes
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What about all the poor and innocent women and kids in gaza .
frick em
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 5:38 pm to
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So we only defend poor and innocent people in places with large oil deposits.


Certainly those whose regimes challenge the supremacy of the U$D and/or threaten Israel. Anyone who thinks anyone in Langley gives one rat’s @ss about the Mullahs suppressing their people are smoking meth.








This post was edited on 2/24/26 at 5:46 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 5:45 pm to
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It’s a fluid situation


It is dizzying seeing many of the same people who rightly recognized that the riots during the long, hot summer of 2020 were partially a CIA color revolution against the American people now seem to gleefully be cheering on that same entity as it apparently plots another regime operation in the Middle East?





Posted by WMTigerFAN
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 5:47 pm to
Is the attack starting during or after the SOTU address? I bet there’s a gambling site somewhere laying odds
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 5:48 pm to
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To end the financing of terrorism all over the world.



So the CIA is going to target itself?



Posted by texas tortilla
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 5:48 pm to
They are asking the Iranian people to help them turn iran into what the cia did to syria/libya.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 5:51 pm to
I cheer for the CIA in Iran only with the hope they can help the Persians cast off their Muslim oppressors. I also recognize we are getting close to fighting the CIA-backed cartels in Mexico.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 5:51 pm to
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Is the attack starting during or after the SOTU address? I bet there’s a gambling site somewhere laying odds


Or before another “lone nut” assassination attempt on Trump?

Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 5:52 pm to
I can't read Arabic, but I'm pretty sure the third slide said
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some of you may die, but that's a sacrifice we are willing to make.
Posted by leeman101
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 5:55 pm to
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It will end the 50 year reign of the Islamist Mullahs and their hegemonic and suicidal martyrdom 'mandate' from their Prophet


Yes. Many here are too young to remember the overthrow of the Shah and the American hostages that were held under Carter's term as POTUS. That was a long year and a half. I remember.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 6:00 pm to
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I cheer for the CIA in Iran only with the hope they can help the Persians cast off their Muslim oppressors.




The overwhelming majority of Iranians are Muslim.

Putting that aside, the Iranian people can partially thank the CIA for the Iranian Revolution.

I periodically repost this book review and Trump’s SOTU speech tonight is as good a day as any to do so again…



The Great Game: America’s Long & Disastrous Foreign Policy Agenda In The Middle East:

Iran looks to be the biggest loser in the latest turmoil to rock the Middle East. Yet tragically, Iran’s current Revolutionary State is in many ways a reaction and lasting legacy of past American interventionism in the region. How so?

Recommended reading: America's Great Game: The CIA's Secret Arabists and the Shaping of the Modern Middle East by Hugh Wilford.

This book of deep history focuses primarily on three CIA agents and their regime change efforts in three countries after WWII: Syria, Egypt and Iran. The key figure that emerges in this narrative is Kermit “Kim” Roosevelt — grandson of Theodore. Roosevelt was recruited into the newly created Central Intelligence Agency to head the Office of Policy Coordination, the espionage and counter-intelligence branch of the CIA.

A rather complicated chess game of competing powers in the newly formed CIA emerges — the Zionists vs. the anti-Zionists. And what a wicked game it was. Wilford illustrates how these agent provocateurs were very short sighted in their schemes and largely viewed the indigenous populations of the Middle Eastern nations as simple pawns in a larger chess game between the Great Powers.

These CIA wunderkinds with blue-blood pedigrees viewed the nation states in the post-colonial era as blank slates to be shaped at will by their supposed knowledge and intellect. Yet rather than fundamentally transform power relations in the Middle East to pro-American sentiment as promised, this spy clique of the Eastern Establishment inculcated a residual and generational resentment toward American meddling in the region that is still evident today.

Along with Roosevelt, Miles Copeland — a Birmingham Alabama native and the father of the famed rock musician Stewart — is another CIA spook who was instrumental in shaping the Middle Eastern landscape after the end of WWII. Copeland helped orchestrate the first CIA military coup in the region: a 1949 bloodless putsch in Syria. The CIA installed Husni al-Za’im, a former Kurdish officer in the Ottoman Army.

Kim Roosevelt, along with assistance from his cousin Archibald Roosevelt, in turn masterminded the 1953 Iranian coup d'état which toppled nationalist prime minister Mohammed Mosaddeqh after Mosaddeqh nationalized the petroleum industry in Iran.

Archibald Roosevelt in turn orchestrated a second 1956 regime change operation in Syria after a violent counter-coup displaced the al-Za’im regime. This second regime change operation in Syria and the ensuing instability ultimately helped push Syria closer to the USSR.

This was a repeated pattern. The CIA’s initial backing of Egyptian General Mohamed Naguib — and his young protege General Gamal Abdel Nasser — likewise backfired when Nasser ousted his elder benefactor, turned his back on the West and nationalized the Suez Canal.

As a tweak to the West, Nasser also opened diplomatic channels to the Soviet Union and supported the creation of a socialist pan-Arabic State. And of course, we all know the results of the festering resentment over the installation of the Shah that ultimately resulted in the Iranian revolution.

Whether it was braggadocio, naïveté or misplaced idealism, the failures of these nation building efforts shaped the modern Middle East that we know today. Sadly, this “game” continues anew. The same doublespeak and false promises spew forth from the mouths of these Masters of the Universe types in our corrupt national security apparatus.

Perhaps it was possible at one time to posit that the chaos and violent fury released upon the region after the Iraq War was an unforeseen contingency. Yet we have now seen a succession of four Middle Eastern nations — Iraq, Libya, Yemen and now Syria — engulfed in violence and human catastrophe after US, NATO and Western military intervention. And now these Masters of the Universe want a war with Iran?

Not coincidentally, each of these repeated military interventions have been followed by a staggering refugee wave headed for Europe. Yet in the name of pluralism, Western nations are sternly lectured by many of these same ruling elites that it must open their borders to a deluge of immigrants whose values are wholly alien to pluralistic societies and must instead welcome these immigrants though many have demonstrated violent antagonism toward free societies?

At this late stage, naïveté can’t be blamed for these repeated failures. It is indeed sheer madness to claim the situation in the Middle East is all an unforeseen accident. The pattern is established and is crystal clear for anyone who doesn’t regurgitate Deep State talking points. The minute details and the exact coordination of the plan becomes irrelevant when the larger pattern is so clear: chaos — the more violent the better — is the goal of these repeated regime change operations.

We can’t change the past. But must we be doomed to repeat it? Endlessly on a loop?



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This post was edited on 2/24/26 at 6:05 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 6:03 pm to
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Yes. Many here are too young to remember the overthrow of the Shah and the American hostages that were held under Carter's term as POTUS. That was a long year and a half. I remember.



Let us not forget either that declassified documents revealed that the Carter Administration was indirectly communicating with Khomeini and other opposition leaders, contradicting the widely disseminated narrative that the Carter Administration was wholly surprised by the Iranian Revolution.

Iran And The Shah. What Really Happened?

…Long regarded as a U.S. ally, the Shah was pro-Western and anti-communist, and he was aware that he posed the main barrier to Soviet ambitions in the Middle East. As distinguished foreign-affairs analyst Hilaire du Berrier noted: “He determined to make Iran capable of blocking a Russian advance until the West should realize to what extent her own interests were threatened and come to his aid…. It necessitated an army of 250,000 men.” The Shah’s air force ranked among the world’s five best. A voice for stability within the Middle East itself, he favored peace with Israel and supplied the beleaguered state with oil.

On the home front, the Shah protected minorities and permitted non-Muslims to practice their faiths. “All faith,” he wrote, “imposes respect upon the beholder.” The Shah also brought Iran into the 20th century by granting women equal rights. This was not to accommodate feminism, but to end archaic brutalization.

Yet, at the height of Iran’s prosperity, the Shah suddenly became the target of an ignoble campaign led by U.S. and British foreign policy makers. Bolstered by slander in the Western press, these forces, along with Soviet-inspired communist insurgents, and mullahs opposing the Shah’s progressiveness, combined to face him with overwhelming opposition. In three years he went from vibrant monarch to exile (on January 16, 1979), and ultimately death, while Iran fell to Ayatollah Khomeini’s terror.

Houchang Nahavandi, one of the Shah’s ministers and closest advisers, reveals in his book The Last Shah of Iran: “We now know that the idea of deposing the Shah was broached continually, from the mid-seventies on, in the National Security Council in Washington, by Henry Kissinger, whom the Shah thought of as a firm friend.”

Kissinger virtually epitomized the American establishment: before acting as Secretary of State under Republicans Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford, he had been chief foreign-affairs adviser to Nelson Rockefeller, whom he called “the single most influential person in my life.” Jimmy Carter defeated Ford in the 1976 presidential election, but the switch to a Democratic administration did not change the new foreign policy tilt against the Shah.

Every presidential administration since Franklin D. Roosevelt’s has been dominated by members of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the most visible manifestation of the establishment that dictates U.S. foreign policy along internationalist lines. The Carter administration was no exception.

What is the solution to modern Iran? Before listening to war drums, let us remember:

It was the CFR clique — the same establishment entrenched in the Bush and Obama administrations — that ousted the Shah, resulting in today’s Iran. That establishment also chanted for the six-year-old Iraq War over alleged weapons of mass destruction never found.

Therefore, instead of contemplating war with Iran, a nation four times Iraq’s size, let us demand that America shed its CFR hierarchy and their interventionist policy that has wrought decades of misery, and adopt a policy of avoiding foreign entanglements, and of minding our own business in international affairs.


This post was edited on 2/24/26 at 6:04 pm
Posted by Keltic Tiger
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 6:05 pm to
Just about every hostage released said that most of those "poor & innocent people" in Gaza treated them as bad as the Hamas thugs did. Go back & look at that video of the female hostage, just captured, ridden in the back of a pickup truck thru the streets of Gaza. Those same people were screaming curses at her, pushing & grabbing on the truck, throwing garbage at / on her. Many of the hostages were put in homes of regular Gazans.....those not kept in tunnels.....where they were starved & mistreated. Yea, those people.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 6:09 pm to
Low IQ inbred sheep trained from birth to hate da Joos.
Posted by LSUbest
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 6:22 pm to
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Yes. Many here are too young to remember the overthrow of the Shah and the American hostages that were held under Carter's term as POTUS.


I sang about every day marching in infantry school.

Please Mr. Regan
Send me to Iran
So I can save the embassy
And free four hundred men
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 6:29 pm to
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Low IQ inbred sheep trained from birth to hate da Joos.


FWIW, I have said on this forum repeatedly that if Israel wants to power up their armored bulldozer battalion and push Hamas into the sea, more power to them. What I oppose is another U.S. sponsored regime change operation in the Middle East. This is NOT what was promised.

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This post was edited on 2/24/26 at 6:30 pm
Posted by Trevaylin
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 6:33 pm to
go away
Posted by BOHICAMAN
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 6:35 pm to
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What I oppose is another U.S. sponsored regime change operation in the Middle East. This is NOT what was promised.


Prepare to be disappointed
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/24/26 at 6:37 pm to
They are telling them how to access .onion sites. CIA apparently has a presence on there.
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