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re: The CEO of the company with the missing sub refused to hire qualified crew

Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:01 am to
Posted by TexasTiger86
Member since Apr 2017
203 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:01 am to
Well, he is probably dead so I don’t think it matters if he is charged with a crime.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
10935 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:02 am to
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his boring 50+ white man would have told him not to use carbon fiber in a compression state just to save money. From what I can tell he didn't go through any sort of external certification process, which for something this critical was just insane.


He could have hired some good ole baws from down the bayou that could have designed a better sub and have that thing U1A stamped.
Posted by tiger1616
Member since May 2020
751 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:03 am to
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That video alone should get him jailed. Alas, it won't.


Well…he’s most likely at the bottom of the Atlantic now.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92514 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:04 am to
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he was doing it for DEI.


Sometimes we just gotta sacrifice for the greater good baw!

#TheUninspiringAreAliveYouAreNot
Posted by Worthy Adversary
Member since Jun 2023
128 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:05 am to
Also.

Excuse me? 50 year old white dudes can't be inspirational?

How many children grew up dreaming of being astronauts based on what a bunch of 50 year old white guys did?

These people have heard shite repeated so much, they don't even think about it.

When I was 10-15 years old, I wasn't so fricking stupid that I couldn't comprehend aspiring to do what a 50 year old accomplished.

Anyone even mildly capable of such things knows that usually, results come with a LOT of experience.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:06 am to
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Instant death to be sure, but our bodies don't deform under uniform hydraulic pressure


The hydraulic pressure is not uniform. That is the point.

Going from 14.7 psig (while in the sub) to over 5,700 psig (when the sub cracks) is beyond catastrophic.

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If they did divers would look really funny.




Divers acclimate on the way down. That means internal pressure = external pressure. Same on the way up to the surface and if they go up to the surface too fast they get decompression sickness (bends).
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 9:08 am
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:06 am to
The universal assumption in this thread seems to be that this sub is missing due to operator error.

Does anyone have any solid information whatsoever as to why the sub went missing?

Is there any evidence of operator error at this time?
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18498 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:12 am to
He didn’t want to hire uniquely qualified military vets. That’s the antithesis of the mindset that made this country the best.

Support your military.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 9:13 am
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16285 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:14 am to
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Does anyone have any solid information whatsoever as to why the sub went missing?


Sure… we are just speculating for the hell of it until someone asks nicely.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22465 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:15 am to
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
10935 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:16 am to
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Does anyone have any solid information whatsoever as to why the sub went missing?


No, but probably because it was a cheap piece of junk thrown together in a hurry to get investors off the guys back to start cash flow and it failed like it inevitably would.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22465 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:17 am to
Hank Dandy to the rescue
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:18 am to
quote:

quote:

Does anyone have any solid information whatsoever as to why the sub went missing?
No, but probably because it was a cheap piece of junk thrown together in a hurry to get investors off the guys back to start cash flow and it failed like it inevitably would.
That was my thought as well.

“But the pilot wasn’t White!”
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21896 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:22 am to
quote:

The universal assumption in this thread seems to be that this sub is missing due to operator error.

Does anyone have any solid information whatsoever as to why the sub went missing?

Is there any evidence of operator error at this time?
maybe he got some inspirational gen z trannies to build it for him instead some 50 year old boring white welders
Posted by Doug_H
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2013
2656 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:25 am to
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“But the pilot wasn’t White!”

Hank you're being your usual self.
Nobody is referencing a pilot or operator error besides you.
The issues are the materials of construction, lack of testing said materials, and lack of certification for the vessel
The viewing window was not rated for this depth either.
This CEO is the only person who brought up race, besides you
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:26 am to
The Byford Dolphin saturation diving incident in the North Sea is an example of catastrophic depressurization. The people that died in that incident were depressurized from 132.3 psig to 14.7 psig in an instant. This is what happened to the diver's body.

Warning very graphic...not posting it here but here is a link: LINK


Now going from 14.7 psig to over 5,700 psig in an instant...there would be nothing recognizable. I know it's the opposite direction compression versus decompression from the Byford Dolphin incident, but it's not the direction of pressure change that necessarily matters here, it's the rate of pressure differential that matters.
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
9168 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:27 am to
quote:

The universal assumption in this thread seems to be that this sub is missing due to operator error.

Does anyone have any solid information whatsoever as to why the sub went missing?

Is there any evidence of operator error at this time?

Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26922 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:28 am to
quote:

The hydraulic pressure is not uniform.


Of course it's uniform, meaning that it's acting evenly all over your body as opposed to a point load.

quote:

Divers acclimate on the way down. That means internal pressure = external pressure. Same on the way up to the surface and if they go up to the surface too fast they get decompression sickness (bends).


I don't say this often but you're talking to a subject matter expert. You really don't have that many air voids that would be crushed under sudden pressure. You'd have some ugliness around the ears and eyes but the body would be the same size and would look like a normal body. If you didn't care about ruptured eardrums you could press a diver, very, very fast and not deform him.

Coming up is a different matter once he's been down for any amount of time.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19426 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:28 am to
The trip costs $250,000 per person. With that kind of money you’d think they could get a competent rescue crew. The people on there had to sign a liability waiver in case they died on the journey.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26922 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:30 am to
quote:

The universal assumption in this thread seems to be that this sub is missing due to operator error.


Does it? I think it was arrogance and a shitty design. If his "no boring white men" applied to his design process as well, then.......
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