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re: Guy asked to make statement against a knife wielding criminal
Posted by Worthy Adversary on 6/27/23 at 2:29 pm to GeauxTigerTM
Man, if I ever get caught on camera and my voice sounds like that as I'm nearly in tears, just shoot me.
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re: Kav and ACB are complete SCOTUS busts
Posted by Worthy Adversary on 6/27/23 at 2:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yeah. I'm not really seeing this as some huge horrible call. I can see the minority position here as arguably correct, and, I can see the majority decision here as arguably correct.
Neither is egregiously out of bounds.
Now, what I would like to see a court rule is that gerrymandering is ALWAYS illegal.........even done to craete majority minority districts. Liberals claim to oppose gerrymandering but that's not the case at all.
They want to keep gerrymandering for their gimme districts, then split the REST of them "fairly" which is just dumb.
Neither is egregiously out of bounds.
Now, what I would like to see a court rule is that gerrymandering is ALWAYS illegal.........even done to craete majority minority districts. Liberals claim to oppose gerrymandering but that's not the case at all.
They want to keep gerrymandering for their gimme districts, then split the REST of them "fairly" which is just dumb.
re: Three Texas cops arrested and charged with murder
Posted by Worthy Adversary on 6/27/23 at 2:20 pm to Tigahs24Seven
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Yes, because what was going on in those asylums was as criminal as anything Nazi Germany & Soviet Russia ever did. Maybe not Chi-Com acts, but very bad.
If you had had to work in these places... dealing with severely disturbed, sometimes violent people, every single day, you would not be so quick to act like they were experimenting on all of them
This whole asylum subject would be a great thread on its own.
Yes. The old ayslums seemed pretty fricking bad I suppose. But now, nearly every human who would have been in one is instead, homeless.
The question is, is that a step up? It's easy to say "asylum bad". But, I'm really not seeing how homeless = better.
re: Three Texas cops arrested and charged with murder
Posted by Worthy Adversary on 6/27/23 at 2:18 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
quote:Everyone in here signed up at some time. So what?
signed up this month
quote:What does this even mean? I guess every new person has "questionable motives". Hell, I guess we all have "questionable motives".
questionable motives
quote:Based on what is this shite typed?
anti-American
quote:I'll likely post or respond on a shite ton of topics but I'm also sure this one will come up again. Hell, I've already posted in several threads. This just happens to be the subject that has caught on today. I'm sure it will be soemthing else soon enough. But to call it "shilling" is just fricking lazy.
you will excuse us while you keep banging away at your 1 week presence here. It will figure itself out; if you are still shilling this same schidt
re: Police Absurdities
Posted by Worthy Adversary on 6/27/23 at 9:28 am to wackatimesthree
quote:And this is why the "bad apples" rhetoric is dumb.
People who can be above the law and escape consequences that others wouldn't—to whatever degree their position affords them the opportunity to do so—will act above the law. It's apparently hardwired into basic human psychology.
HUMANS, given power, will use that power. And, if you give humans power PLUS tell them they will largely not be questioned for how they apply it, you get inevitable results.
Policing will never get better, no matter what policies are put into place, until the public stops treating them like Gods. And right now, too large a segment of the publicl still does so.
re: Police Absurdities
Posted by Worthy Adversary on 6/27/23 at 9:24 am to Flats
quote:For me, the tipping point was an accumulation.
Cameras were probably the #2 factor. That one in NY when 2 cops hit a parked car then blamed it on the guy that was sitting in it at the time and arrested him was eye opening. He claimed one of them even said "sorry man, but I'm not losing pay over this". Had it not been captured by an external camera, I think it was somebody's porch cam, the guy would have been screwed.
Because sure, MANY things the press cried about turned out be race baiting bull shite.
However, I noticed something that couldn't be ignored.
There were still at least a solid handful of cases where the initial story the cops told just turned out to be flagrant bull shite and initially, there was no public camera footage. And in 100%, not 99%, 100% of the cases, it was NEVER the other cops on scene that spilled the beans. Or even the leadership who may have had body cam footage.
In those cases where video came out LATER and the cops turned out to have been lying, it 100% of the time took the video. Not other cops. Not the leadership. The video.
I once said, "ya know what would be nice? It would be nice if JUST ONCE, the way I found out about police misconduct on scene was from other police officers".
re: Police Absurdities
Posted by Worthy Adversary on 6/27/23 at 9:20 am to BobABooey
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hey arrested Butterfly Boy!!! YouTube
Yep. A video that demonstrates 3 of my favorites.
1)The stupid fricks don't know how trespass laws are not the same for public vs private property. Hell, they don't know the difference between public and private property!
2. They think any words that pass their lips are "lawful orders".
3. "Obstructing"! The universal "we got jack shite" charge that is dismissed so damned often it can barely be called a law. This is the whole, "yeah, we know we're full of shite and you're going to be let out, we still get to kidnap you for a period of time which satisfies our need to prove WEE own you".
re: Police Absurdities
Posted by Worthy Adversary on 6/27/23 at 9:14 am to Worthy Adversary
Hey. I remembered another one for the list.
"Yes, I could tell you why I pulled you over before you give me all your paperwork, but then, I couldn't show you I have control over you by refusing to even though there is literally no functional reason I couldn't just tell you".
"Yes, I could tell you why I pulled you over before you give me all your paperwork, but then, I couldn't show you I have control over you by refusing to even though there is literally no functional reason I couldn't just tell you".
re: Police Absurdities
Posted by Worthy Adversary on 6/27/23 at 9:12 am to roadGator
quote:Yup.
Happens all the time with smelling alcohol on the breath.
And ya know. If they want to use that lie to pull me out of the car to check me, THAT is annoying.
Using the "smell" lie to search my car is a "you deserve to be shot no matter what uniform you wear" action.
re: Police Absurdities
Posted by Worthy Adversary on 6/27/23 at 9:11 am to Flats
quote:Which is why they are all fricking cowards. The lot of them unless they rebuke this line of thinking.
"I don't care, I'm going home safe"
quote:Qualified Immunity spoken out loud. "Meh, I can frick with you and inconvenience you and for me, that's a win no matter what happens in court because at heart, I'm just a fricking bully"
"You might beat the rap, but not the ride"
quote:"Oh my God, my job is sooooo hard. YOU wouldn't do it, so, that justfies basically any behavior I might manifest! Besides, you're gonna call me if you need help, so that means I should never be questioned".
"Unless you're a cop, you just don't know"
quote:Just the tip of the "laws don't apply to LE" attitude.
"Hell yeah, if I'm late to something (personal) I'm hitting the lights. frick traffic"
re: Police Absurdities
Posted by Worthy Adversary on 6/27/23 at 8:55 am to Flats
quote:LOL
Damn you people suck. Can we not have one fricking thread that doesn't drag the primary into it? frick off.
That one slipped right by me.
Yeah. This has nothing to do with the election. And hell, even if it did, pretty much all of our "leaders" let us down in the area of freedom and, cops everywhere from the most liberal to the most conservative places enforced absolute bullshite without question.
Ya know why? Becauses the only difference between American cops and those that existed in the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, N. Korea etc is that they haven't been given the horrible orders yet.
But make no mistake. They'd follow them.
re: Police Absurdities
Posted by Worthy Adversary on 6/27/23 at 8:48 am to Dex Morgan
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Cops get their feelings hurt easily and think they can do whatever they want. They're bullies.
And they can because 50% of the nation gives them a pass.
Let's at least be honest here people. In situations without video..........we all(me included) used to pretty much believe cops all the time. Especially if the citizen was shaky looking.
The ONLY time most conservatives don't take the word of the cops as Gospel is when shite gets caught on camera that can't be overlooked.
And again, disregard CNN. They don't care about police, they care about race narrative. The worst videos of police behavior rarely make it to the evening news.
re: Police Absurdities
Posted by Worthy Adversary on 6/27/23 at 8:44 am to Jimbeaux
quote:Literally nothing in the post you quoted is overstatement.
You have a penchant for extreme overstatement
Hell, it's super common practice. They've actually developed intentional tools to get around the court decision. That's not some theory. It's being done all over the nation.
re: Police Absurdities
Posted by Worthy Adversary on 6/27/23 at 8:43 am to Jimbeaux
quote:Well, with a body cam, if a cop sees it, it might be on cam. Or, other people might see the same thing.
How do you cross examine a cop’s vision, or auditory sensation, or touch sensation from a pat-down?
Frankly, the discretion of officers should be SEVERELY narrowed but the point is, there are exactly zero ways to verify nose. Vision can be shared by others. Touch.......well, I mean shite. If you touched it and you pulled it out and it turned out to be a rubber duckie, you're an idiot anyway.
quote:Start by recognize officers are humans and stop treating them like they aren't.
It sure is easy to pick something apart, but creating solutions that actually work is another thing. Tell me your plan for a better law enforcement model.
Show as much skepticism with them as you would an IRS agent. Then, set policy accordingly because as bad as an IRS guy is, he can't tie you up, kidnap you and put you in a cage.
re: Police Absurdities
Posted by Worthy Adversary on 6/27/23 at 8:39 am to Jimbeaux
I notice that no one seems to want to touch the issue of canines. Yet, this is one of the more comical things we tolerate. Canine use has been repeatedly shown to be shaky. Yet, the defense is always that they do well when "tested".
I'm like, good fricking god, have none of you ever owned an animal? Even a well trained one? You know what animals are especially good at? Knowing what their owners want.
I've ridden horses all my life and now my daughter does too. Ya know what happens when you get on your horse in a shitty mood? The horse often reflects that mood.
The numbers CLEARLY show that the dogs are very "meh" in real life and that's before you get to the cops who have been busted "helping" the dogs "hit".
So, people get the privilege of being pulled over......having some cop INTENTIONALLY prolong the top.......having a dog hop arounod on all over their car with sharp nails scratching their paint...........for a "method" that has barely better than a coin flip chance of being correct.
AND, a method that has literally zero way to counter in terms of being "justfied". How many people could EVER prove the handler "helped" the dog? And, handler's ain't dumb(for the most part). Getting caught on camera has happened, but rarely.
I'm like, good fricking god, have none of you ever owned an animal? Even a well trained one? You know what animals are especially good at? Knowing what their owners want.
I've ridden horses all my life and now my daughter does too. Ya know what happens when you get on your horse in a shitty mood? The horse often reflects that mood.
The numbers CLEARLY show that the dogs are very "meh" in real life and that's before you get to the cops who have been busted "helping" the dogs "hit".
So, people get the privilege of being pulled over......having some cop INTENTIONALLY prolong the top.......having a dog hop arounod on all over their car with sharp nails scratching their paint...........for a "method" that has barely better than a coin flip chance of being correct.
AND, a method that has literally zero way to counter in terms of being "justfied". How many people could EVER prove the handler "helped" the dog? And, handler's ain't dumb(for the most part). Getting caught on camera has happened, but rarely.
re: Police Absurdities
Posted by Worthy Adversary on 6/27/23 at 8:32 am to Jimbeaux
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That’s the very definition of one bad cop, along with bad oversight apparently.
Which is the point. It's why conservatives should treat thre police EXACTLY the way we treat all government agents.
The incentives are all perverse and can't help but create the environment he found himself in. His behavior brought both him and his bosses positive recognition and reward. Thus, the obvious questions were never asked or ignored.
And no, there is no way to fix the incentives.
Police, like all government agencies, are a necessary evil. We have to have them for decent society. But should ALWAYS recognize they are a necessary EVIL
re: It’s called “Operation: Warp Speed”
Posted by Worthy Adversary on 6/27/23 at 8:30 am to Bass Tiger
quote:The whole story is funny.
What's interesting about Trump pushing the vaccine is the people who bought the hype. If you look at the unvaccinated I would guess 70-80% are America First/MAGA types, which proves they're not sheep. Then look at the Dims/Groomers/Transformers, these people as a group are nearly 100% in favor of the MRNA Juice and forever boosters....you would think Trump would be their fricking hero.
The same people who openly mocked Trump for saying he wanted a vaccine within a year promptly acted like getting not 1, but 3 vaccines in under a year bore no scrutiny at all and that anyone questioning was the rough equivalent of a flat earther.
re: Police Absurdities
Posted by Worthy Adversary on 6/27/23 at 8:24 am to Jimbeaux
quote:My assumption is that 1 of 2 things is irretrievably true.
However, your assumption that cops were lying every time or even most of the time when there was no “hit” is just anti-cop biased fantasy.
1. They lied.
2. That clearly, there is no legal justification for continuing the use of "smell" as justification.
quote:They really haven't Oh, I get it. The courts decided. LOL. The courts also decided that it was illegal to extend a traffic stop beyond the time it takes to give the ticket solely to bring in a canine. And, it took the police about 5 minutes to figure out their way around that.
As we have agreed, marijuana is so penetrating that it’s not surprising that the smell will remain long after it’s all smoked, or if the person who smoked has the smell on them long after they left the place where they smoked. That’s why they have recently stopped allowing it as a basis for probable cause.
Which is the point. They are frickING GOVERNMENT AGENTS. They act EXACTLY like all the other government agencies we conservatives mistrust. Have you seen the games they play now to give canines time to arrive? It's comical.
quote:I don't really care about bad cops. Bad people are in every group. I care that the supposedly good cops do nothing which means, THEY are bad too!
But don’t confuse my argument. I’m not saying there aren’t bad cops,
quote:"Leadership" by "good cops" in North Carolina didn't notice as one of their officers somehow had roughly 4x the number of search/drug busts as any other officer in the unit for nearly 4 fricking years! It took a new ADA showing up to notice the oddity and eventually, catch him planting drugs on his own damned body cam.
Your over-broad and hyperbolic representations contribute to an anti-cop bias that is already out of control and causing more criminality.
That was NOT "one bad cop". Sorry. It just wasn't.
re: Police Absurdities
Posted by Worthy Adversary on 6/27/23 at 8:17 am to saintsfan225
quote:Percentages
Can you provide any kind of specific stats to back up this claim? Any percentages of wrong vs. right address?
I'm sure the percent is low. You know what the percent SHOULD be?
ZERO. fricking ZERO times should it be possible to wrong address bust into someone's home.
There should be so many checks on this before it goes down that it would be impossible.
I would NEVER bust into someone's home unless I was fricking sure. If were told 106........and an hour later, you're busting in the door of 108, you're a fricking moron iwth a disregard for the public.
Why? Because it you are not 100% sure, you should STOP.
Hell, I watched a video of cops literally debating among themselves if they were "at the right place" on body camera........seconds before busting down the door.
I mean, what in the actual frick kind of mentality is that? And, what do you think happened in that situation? I'll tell you. The police leadership held on to the body cam for more than TWO frickING YEARS before the lawyers finally got it and in those 2 years, not a single cop was fired.
re: It’s called “Operation: Warp Speed”
Posted by Worthy Adversary on 6/27/23 at 8:09 am to Penrod
quote:I've been saying for a bit, the left is gonna keep pushing this shite until there are free helicopter rides and everyone is gonna be like, "whoa, didn't see that coming"
Oh, there are two big cults, one on the left and one on the right. The one on the left is winning, but we might find ourselves with a right-wing cult in power.
I'll be sitting here going.........."well how in the frick did you not!"
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