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re: The Atlantic: the great affordability crisis breaking America
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:05 am to The Pirate King
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:05 am to The Pirate King
These major cities should secede from the USA and become a sort of Neo-Hanseatic League where Cucks and Psycho-Bitches live.
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:12 am to crazy4lsu
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Most of "flyover" country has incredibly poor travel infrastructure, and no supply of talent from elite universities, most of which are already situated by metropolitan areas anyway.
I’ll agree with the travel infrastructure but look at the big elite universities in the big ten. Michigan, OSU, Purdue, Wisconsin, all are in “fly over country”
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:15 am to Cosmo
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Yet somehow illegals come here in droves making less than minimum wage and are able to find housing in Los Angeles
Yea you wouldn't want to live where they live.
They also pile up 2 or 3 families to a house.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:18 am to cahoots
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So what you're saying is that you agree that this is a housing affordability problem? It's not just people wanting swanky digs in NYC or LA. Wages have not kept up with housing costs. Regardless of why, this presents a problem to the average American.
No, when you look at populations by generation, the issue should be self correcting unless we import 50-100 million highly skilled immigrants or something radical like that.
The only "crisis" is with low income people. We would be better off paying for these people's moving expenses than capping rental rates. Mobility is the real issue here, it's not supply and demand of housing.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:19 am to The Pirate King
Total bs...there are ways to build aesthetically pleasing houses out of mud and grass...grass that fuels fires that threaten the homes that are built there.
We don't have an 'affordability' problem...we've got a 'people' problem. "Where there is no vision, my people die" (Good Book). People do drugs to change their version (vision) of (Subjective) Reality. We can either fix that...or chase our tale to ultimate dysfunction, crash and burn.
We don't have an 'affordability' problem...we've got a 'people' problem. "Where there is no vision, my people die" (Good Book). People do drugs to change their version (vision) of (Subjective) Reality. We can either fix that...or chase our tale to ultimate dysfunction, crash and burn.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:24 am to stout
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Yea you wouldn't want to live where they live.
They also pile up 2 or 3 families to a house.
Exactly
You do what you have to do
You arent entitled to a 2000 sqft house for a family of 4
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:25 am to RCDfan1950
I guess I should add on that the Atlantic are all in for Bernie, so it stands to reason they are about equal access for all to everything. Power to the proletariat!
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:25 am to wutangfinancial
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:35 am to Wtodd
What do the politics and tax structure have to do with this?
This is a simple supply and demand situation. The municipal governments are not pushing this, the private sector pushes this. In these places there is high demand with multiple bidders aggressively pushing the bid up.
People want to live there. The economies are dynamic and stable and space is limited geograohically. San Francisco is on a peninsula. Manhattan is an island. Seattle is hemmed in by high mountains.
Tax structure is irrelevent. My proof is the local markets
This is a simple supply and demand situation. The municipal governments are not pushing this, the private sector pushes this. In these places there is high demand with multiple bidders aggressively pushing the bid up.
People want to live there. The economies are dynamic and stable and space is limited geograohically. San Francisco is on a peninsula. Manhattan is an island. Seattle is hemmed in by high mountains.
Tax structure is irrelevent. My proof is the local markets
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:36 am to The Pirate King
This "crisis" is 100% the result of government actions and cronyism restricting supply.
Zoning, trade unionism, permits, environmentalism etc etc
100%
not partly or mostly
Even in places like Manhattan where geography would appear to be a limiting factor, the removal of government created barriers to construction and development could immediately start to solve homelessness and middle class affordability.
The homelessness in SF is totally on the backs of corrupt politicians.
Zoning, trade unionism, permits, environmentalism etc etc
100%
not partly or mostly
Even in places like Manhattan where geography would appear to be a limiting factor, the removal of government created barriers to construction and development could immediately start to solve homelessness and middle class affordability.
The homelessness in SF is totally on the backs of corrupt politicians.
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 10:38 am
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:37 am to Oilfieldbiology
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I’ll agree with the travel infrastructure but look at the big elite universities in the big ten. Michigan, OSU, Purdue, Wisconsin, all are in “fly over country”
All those universities are within 100 miles of major metropolitan areas, and Columbus is centrally located to the majority of the US, and thus is a transportation hub. There aren't that many universities in the middle of nowhere, especially in one of the many dying counties in the flyover states.
A place like Rochester, which was once a hub of tech companies, is a better candidate for a tech company moving operations to cheaper locales than most counties in the US. There are a plethora of highly ranked universities in the area, good infrastructure, and decent real estate prices.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:48 am to cahoots
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People would rather spend half of their paycheck to live in SF than 10% of double the paycheck to live in bumfricksville
Correct. But that makes it a choice, not a “crisis”.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 10:51 am to Powerman
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So elite software engineers can find gainful employment in New Orleans?
If they're actually elite software engineers, yes, because their employer will let them work from wherever they want.
You don't need to be in an office in a cube to do most IT/Cybersecurity/Software Development work.
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 10:52 am
Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:02 am to TigerRad
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:06 am to The Pirate King
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Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:09 am to Cosmo
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You arent entitled to a 2000 sqft house for a family of 4
They actually do that in 800sqft 2/2s
Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:09 am to teke184
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How is this a national crisis if the problem is in about 10 major cities?
Because about a third of the US lives in the top 10 major cities in the US.
Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:11 am to cahoots
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Except that even the suburbs are much more expensive in that area. Real estate is finite. You can't escape that fact.
It costs more to live in the Woodlands (TX) than it does to live in Mandeville (LA), on average. It's a reflection of markets, not government.
Can’t it be both?
Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:11 am to cahoots
Real estate will always be more expensive in popular places.
Unfortunately, govt makes the problem worse because they react to this fact by "solving" it in ways that discourage private enterprise from doing what private enterprise does.
Rent Controls
Zoning restrictions
etc
etc
etc
So, they take a normal situation that is challenging, and make it worse!
Then, they react to it being worse, by doubling down!
Unfortunately, govt makes the problem worse because they react to this fact by "solving" it in ways that discourage private enterprise from doing what private enterprise does.
Rent Controls
Zoning restrictions
etc
etc
etc
So, they take a normal situation that is challenging, and make it worse!
Then, they react to it being worse, by doubling down!
Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:21 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Geographically, Housing is affordable in the US. In just a handful of cities it Is not.
Exactly, but I think by "affordable," they mean "free."
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 11:23 am
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