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re: The 2 decisions that crushed Harris’s momentum- THE HILL

Posted on 11/3/24 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 11/3/24 at 3:28 pm to
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I will be honest, I do not understand why she didn’t pick anyone else, unless they wanted nothing to do with the campaign.

That is the only explanation for Shapiro.

He must have felt that he would suffer politically if he attached himself to Harris.



I think she was told no thank you multiple times. I really don't think the high end talent on the dim party were lining up to attache their wagon to the woman who got 0 votes in the 2020 primaries.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 11/3/24 at 3:28 pm to
That’s true. At the time it was reported that Newsome, Witmer, and Shapiro all turned her down.
Posted by Harry Ballz 2024
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2024
777 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 3:28 pm to
Exactly, you’ll never see a state like PA be decided by only 60,000 votes or less.
This post was edited on 11/3/24 at 3:29 pm
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14569 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 3:28 pm to
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That is the only explanation for Shapiro.

He must have felt that he would suffer politically if he attached himself to Harris.


Good call
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47574 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 3:30 pm to
I recall it being opined that his religion might be an issue with the base. We all know how democrats really feel about Jews.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49523 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 3:30 pm to
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If they would have gone with a white guy and let him throw Biden and Harris under the bus, I think Trump would have been screwed.

I dunno - their fraud operation is still powerful.

But the only person I absolutely feared they'd choose was Michelle Obama.

I figured they'd wait until the last moment to pull Biden and stick Michelle in his place
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476648 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 3:32 pm to
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unless they wanted nothing to do with the campaign.


That's why
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46368 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 3:32 pm to
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The only one who crushed Harris is Harris. She is not likable


Well the Dem players who finagled her into the nominee without a primary are the real parties responsible. They has better candidates on the bench.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69087 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 3:33 pm to
This election comes down to two things. Either you’re for Trump or your against Trump. Nobody is “for Kamala.” She’s just a terrible candidate.
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 3:35 pm to
Sheep! They tried to get Trump supporters to fall in line with Desantis & all it did was hurt his brand bc we didn’t fall for it.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9800 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 3:35 pm to
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Seems like the last couple of years Pelosi got tired of hearing her party was being ran by the Squad, the fringe Left, and probably made that known through out her colleagues. I think it has gotten to a point where even the Left doesn't want anybody THAT liberal running their party.



Yet they still gave us a Harris/Walz ticket. Maybe the most far left ticket in history.
This post was edited on 11/3/24 at 3:36 pm
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12688 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 3:45 pm to
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That is the only explanation for Shapiro. He must have felt that he would suffer politically if he attached himself to Harris.


I think she fell prisoner to the moment with the Israel Palestine headlines being much more centered at that point. Which is an indictment on her judgement of world politics in and of itself.
Posted by Doctor B
Member since Jul 2024
1603 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 3:50 pm to
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"anxiety based on unique nature of this cycle. We didn't have a traditional process."


So that's the story they are going with....

Wild arse circumstances that just kinda happened and were not coordinated.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47574 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 3:50 pm to
Let’s be honest, they’ve never developed a real bench. They threw 20 plus names at us in the 20 primaries and none of them stuck. Rather than find their next star, center the party ideologically, listen to populist voter sentiment, and shun the fringe - they just said “frick it” and went with Harris.

I think they’ve been in a bubble of advantage in their echo chamber for so long, that they know how to win on message anymore. Like a house cat getting its arse destroyed by a stray.
This post was edited on 11/3/24 at 3:51 pm
Posted by captainFid
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Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 11/3/24 at 3:57 pm to
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Immediately after those backroom dealings, every nonconforming Democrat had to accept that Harris, without getting one vote in the primary, was being installed by the machine to replace the sputtering President Joe Biden. With that selection predetermined, Biden officially announced on July 21 that he would not be running for reelection and was endorsing Harris as his replacement.



And it's for this reason, it's time to pile on. Penalize them down-ballot.

For those who believe 'band-wagoning' does occur, and for every conservative who already supports Trump - our only action should be 'straight ticket'.

This is the punishment the Democrats deserve.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 4:10 pm to
With a whimper.
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
7920 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 4:21 pm to
I understand why Heels Up didn’t pick Shapiro. It’s well known. The Demorat Party is racist and antisemitic. Shapiro is Jewish.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37988 posts
Posted on 11/3/24 at 5:27 pm to
The obviously mentally declined and ailing Biden actually would have had a better shot at a legitimate victory than Harris/Tampon.

It's honestly hilarious to think about.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 1:03 pm to
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I will be honest, I do not understand why she didn’t pick anyone else, unless they wanted nothing to do with the campaign.


Supposedly Walz was the only taker. Everyone else turned her down.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20515 posts
Posted on 11/4/24 at 1:17 pm to
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And it's for this reason, it's time to pile on. Penalize them down-ballot.

For those who believe 'band-wagoning' does occur, and for every conservative who already supports Trump - our only action should be 'straight ticket'.


My SO and I voted GOP for every contested race on our ballot (all those which weren't, were all GOP).
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