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re: Tennessee police in 2022 busted Maryland thug with trafficking 7 women
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:50 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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Now the larger part is the socio-political implications of the admin's behaviors moving forward.
Maybe the larger part is the socio-political implications of the judiciary's behaviors moving forward.
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:51 am to SlowFlowPro
Bro you a weird dude. You’re always spouting liberal BS and every time new info comes out about this guy you just always try to find a reason to justify your reasoning and it falls flat. Dying on this hill is something that needs to be studied. Take your L buddy you were wrong from get-go
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:51 am to mwade91383
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deport a lot of people fairly quickly and still give them due process.
How long, exactly, do you think it will take the courts to process 20 million illegals? And that's just the number they're guessing at over the last 4 years. Almost a tenth of the population.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:09 am to SlowFlowPro
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He could have been the worst person in the history of humanity who killed a hundred babies in their cribs and it wouldn't change the legal argument or conclusion
SFP, this has been worth my time in arguing this. I have discovered there really are Americans that don't appreciate the rule of law. They are tribalists with no appreciation of what makes America great.
Running up against the law of diminishing returns, however, I think I am going to semi-retire from arguing legal matters with tribalists.
Good luck to you.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:26 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Are you saying that the immigration judge's hold order prohibiting Abrego Garcia’s deportation to El Salvador (see first item in attached ICE Field Director's affidavit) dissolved AUTOMATICALLY? I'm just not aware of any practice in law or administrative procedure where that could be true...but I'm willing to learn.
It’s not that the rival gang doesn’t exist anymore that dissolves the hold automatically, it’s the fact that MS-13 is now subject to the Alien Enemies Act per Trump executive order. Under that all immigration asylums, procedures, are gone.
You all keep saying the USSC ruled that his deportation was in error. They didn’t rule that because they didn’t have to. The attorney for the government advanced this position and was terminated for it. He was apparently unwilling to raise the issue that the hold was dissolved once Trump issues the order under the AEA.
If El Salvador brought himback, he would immediately be returned and the gov would site the AEA at the basis for the hold order no longer existing, as should have been argued in the first place. If El Salvador returns him, the only way to challenge his deportation under the AEA is through a habeus petition in TX (as recently ruled by the USS). Which means this dude is going straight back to El Salvador.
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 8:27 am
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:27 am to IvoryBillMatt
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I have discovered there really are Americans that don't appreciate the rule of law.
Says the guy defending ppl who broke our laws
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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Well sure. The legal portion is settled. The removal is illegal.
Saying 1000 times does not make it true.
I'll ask again, show your work where his removal was illegal. I've already called out one of your arguments on this, and I will keep asking every time I see you make this false statement.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:32 am to IvoryBillMatt
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SFP, this has been worth my time in arguing this. I have discovered there really are Americans that don't appreciate the rule of law. They are tribalists with no appreciation of what makes America great.
Running up against the law of diminishing returns, however, I think I am going to semi-retire from arguing legal matters with tribalists.
Good luck to you
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:34 am to LSUFAITHFUL2
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You all keep saying the USSC ruled that his deportation was in error. They didn’t rule that because they didn’t have to.
IIRC, the USSC said it was "unlawful"
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:35 am to SlowFlowPro
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449506 posts
449505 of those posts have been attempts to back his original bullshite post with more bullshite.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:36 am to Dock Holiday
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Saying 1000 times does not make it true.
I'll ask again, show your work where his removal was illegal. I
I need to change my comment above. It wasn't "Unlawful" it was "Improper"
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The order properly requires the Government to “facilitate” Abrego Garcia’s release from custody in El Salvador and to ensure that his case is handled as it would have been had he not been improperly sent to El Salvador.
That's from the opinion.
Improper = violation of the law = illegal. This isn't in dispute.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:40 am to SDVTiger
The left claim to be civilized society, but you couldn't have a civilized society if they were in control, which is proven in every big blue city.
Person breaks law, gets shot by police.
They protest the police. Police say frick it, ignore calls.
Rioters destroy businesses.
They support the rioters.
Business moves away.
They excoriate the business owners.
Squatters move into business, landlord upset.
They publicly shame the landlord for being inhumane.
Leftists get attacked by drug-addled squatters, scream for police.
Police left town, leftists biatch and moan about not getting protection...
You could go on and on.
Person breaks law, gets shot by police.
They protest the police. Police say frick it, ignore calls.
Rioters destroy businesses.
They support the rioters.
Business moves away.
They excoriate the business owners.
Squatters move into business, landlord upset.
They publicly shame the landlord for being inhumane.
Leftists get attacked by drug-addled squatters, scream for police.
Police left town, leftists biatch and moan about not getting protection...
You could go on and on.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:42 am to IvoryBillMatt
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ALL the judges and justices who have reviewed the facts and the law agree that deporting THIS illegal alien TO El Salvador WAS illegal because of the hold order explicitly prohibiting Abrego Garcia’s deportation to El Salvador. This is not a close or even debatable question of law.
Not even debatable? It's absolutely debatable. If the president is given powers under the AEA to deport illegal aliens without judicial review, then the district court exceeded their authority from the outset.
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 8:43 am
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:50 am to IvoryBillMatt
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have discovered there really are Americans that don't appreciate the rule of law.
His removal order was stayed and he was temporarily granted asylum. Let’s analyze the legal reasons asylum was granted. I’m all for discussing the rule of law.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:50 am to IvoryBillMatt
Lol
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:53 am to LSUFAITHFUL2
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It’s not that the rival gang doesn’t exist anymore that dissolves the hold automatically, it’s the fact that MS-13 is now subject to the Alien Enemies Act per Trump executive order. Under that all immigration asylums, procedures, are gone.
Thanks. That's at least a legal argument. I don't think it would have held up even if presented to the Supreme Court. I don't think invocation of the Alien Enemies Act would have applied retroactively to dissolve the pre-existing grant of protection from removal to El Salvador.
As to Abrego Garcia, I guess we'll never know, because the question is moot. He's beyond the jurisdiction of American courts. This will go down as:
1) illegal deportation to El Salvador, but...
2) no legal remedy to cure the illegal deportation.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:56 am to concrete_tiger
Marxism can’t create anything. It is a doctrine of destruction on an a priori basis.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:03 am to mwade91383
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For everyone else moving forward, getting due process is paramount and a massive issue.
What is due process for illegal immigrants that crossed over our border illegally? Please delineate exactly what would make you happy before we deport illegals back to their country of origin?
Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:04 am to the808bass
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Marxism can’t create anything. It is a doctrine of destruction on an a priori basis.
Nobody is arguing for Marxism ITT
Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:04 am to IvoryBillMatt
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I don't think invocation of the Alien Enemies Act would have applied retroactively to dissolve the pre-existing grant of protection from removal to El Salvador.
The AEA is a war power, that can also be used outside of declared war. The Supreme court has addressed the president's power under the auspices of that act, in Ludecke vs Watkins. The act has one solitary goal, and that is to enable the president to expeditiously remove foreign invaders who pose a threat to the public safety within US territories. There is no "grant of protection" for illegal aliens deported under that act, pre-existing or otherwise. There is no provision for judges to impede that presidential power on an individual due process basis.
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 9:09 am
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