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re: Tennessee police in 2022 busted Maryland thug with trafficking 7 women

Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:55 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:55 am to
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This is a political battle far more than a legal battle.

Well sure. The legal portion is settled. The removal is illegal.

Now the larger part is the socio-political implications of the admin's behaviors moving forward.

However, that, also, has nothing to do with something in 2022 or the mortality of the person in question.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:56 am to
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What is it that you leftist

I'm not a leftist.

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“The ends justify the means”

That's not exclusive to a single partisan group.

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Don’t care

That's a white flag for the actual discussion then.

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your illegal gang banger, human trafficking, wife beater hero is never coming back. Go cry some more and get it out of your system so you can get ready for the next fake outrage your democrat and msm overlords have planned for you next week

NPC status: confirmed (I already knew that anyway)
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:59 am to
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I'm not a leftist.


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SlowFlowPro


LMAO…… NPC status confirmed (we all know this anyway)
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 7:00 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:01 am to
You can lie about things all you want, but I'm no leftist.

I'm one of the few on here who still argues for capitalism and removal of government intervention/manipulation of markets. In no way is that leftism (although idiots tried that label there, too, and even called Sowell's economic literature "MMT". The idiocracy is pervasive in MAGA America)
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23921 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:04 am to
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It's pretty wild watching left wingers siding with human trafficking in service to their ideology. If that's not a trait of a cult I don't know what is


SFP would suck this gang banger off just to prove his loyalty to the leftwing cause. He woke up this morning white knighting for his hero…… after reports of him being a human smuggler emerged. Then again, according to SFP, human smuggling is made up and not real
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:08 am to
Can someone tell that queer Ian at WWL about this. He's been filling in for the other queer Scoot and has been crying about this MS13 gang member being deported for 2 days now. I hope he's back today so I can see if he changes his tune... prob not.
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:08 am to
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SFP would suck this gang banger off just to prove his loyalty to the leftwing cause.

Now you're just melting

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He woke up this morning white knighting for his hero…… after reports of him being a human smuggler emerged.

And you're apparently illiterate.

He could be the worst human who has ever existed and it's irrelevant to the actual discussion.

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according to SFP, human smuggling is made up and not real

Tripling down on the lying
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23921 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:09 am to
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You can lie about things all you want, but I'm no leftist.


You can lie to yourself all you want but your post history reveals the truth. No one believes that you’re not a leftist, your post history provides all the proof needed. Your post history shows not only who you are critical of but more importantly, who you are not critical of (democrats, leftist policies, and left wing judiciary rulings)

But like a true left wing narcissist, it’s everyone else who is wrong, not you.
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 7:12 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89841 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:12 am to
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I'm one of the few on here who still argues for capitalism



You were wrong in your tariff arguments. And even admitted you are pro tariffs by the end of it and are against free trade.


Funny how that’s been pushed aside in favor of a gang member who was deported to his home country.





Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98294 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:15 am to
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LMAO…… NPC status confirmed (we all know this anyway


He really does think hes fooling ppl with his denial
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23921 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:15 am to
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Funny how that’s been pushed aside in favor of a gang member who was deported to his home country.


They take their marching orders from the democrats and msm. This too will be pushed aside next week for another made up week of outrage and SFP will be here to push the leftist narrative. FACT
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:16 am to
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You were wrong in your tariff arguments.

Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell are wrong about tariffs

That's the leftist argument, which was my point entirely.

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And even admitted you are pro tariffs



Link?

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Funny how that’s been pushed aside in favor of a gang member who was deported to his home country.

That's a function of the MAGA echo chamber changing their Overton Window
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:18 am to
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They take their marching orders from the democrats and msm.

I wouldn't know what they're saying.

I've only cited the Supreme Court's ruling and other things in filed pleadings in the case.

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the leftist narrative

Following the Constitution and criticizing the government breaking the law is now "the leftist narrative"? Oh boy
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:21 am to
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Deporting criminal aliens isn’t illegal.


This is my last attempt to explain this. Everyone agrees that deporting criminal aliens is legal. However, ALL the judges and justices who have reviewed the facts and the law agree that deporting THIS illegal alien TO El Salvador WAS illegal because of the hold order explicitly prohibiting Abrego Garcia’s deportation to El Salvador. This is not a close or even debatable question of law.

It did not prevent him from being deported. It prevented him from (legally) being deported to El Salvador.

As an analogy, assume I was ordered to pay a level of child support based on my $240,000 a year job. Then, I get fired from my $240,000 a year job. Can I quit paying child support? No. I have to seek a modification of the child support order.

Could Abrego Garcia be legally deported to El Salvador? Not as long as the hold order remained. The BASIS of the hold order changed, but that didn't automatically dissolve the order.

Again, none of this matters practically. The Trump Administration was able to bypass the law by removing Abrego Garcia from the jurisdiction of American courts. I'm not THAT upset about it, because Abrego Garcia should have been deported in 2019 during the first Trump Administration, but it wasn't considered a priority.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44326 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:23 am to
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I'm one of the few on here who still argues for capitalism and removal of government intervention/manipulation of markets.


And yet, you support China, and it’s most extreme intervention/manipulation.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16658 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:34 am to
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Garcia, however, was the subject of a court order saying “do not deport this man to El Salvador,” and the government violated that order.

The Judge who issued that court order was an appointed immigration judge, appointed by the Attorney General of the US Justice Department. The Immigration Judge’s job is to apply not only immigration law, but also immigration policies.

The basis for the Judge’s decision in 2019 was an immigration policy that no longer applies. That judge upheld the decision to deport Kilmar but the 18th Street Gang no longer exists as a threat in El Salvador, which was the basis for that judge’s determination.

A full hearing wasn’t necessary under the “exigent circumstances” action (national security concerns). But
Kilmar still has the right to contest the action through habeas corpus.

So far the process is in accordance with written procedures, it’s just a matter of Kilmar being able to contest the action, and that now depends on the cooperation of his home country.

Since El Salvador is getting paid $60 per day to house this guy, it seems like the supporters of the human trafficker, wife beater, and MS-13 gang member (all the same person) can just set a up a gofundme to outbid the US for the daily care of Kilmar. The US has already promised to send a plane to take him back into US custody so that he can then be deported back to El Salvador, his home country.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8626 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:42 am to
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it’s his only big issue that not underwater


I think there is something you are missing with this poll. It's either swayed because Democrats were the one's polled OR it could be they polled Trump supporters that aren't happy there aren't more deportations happening. I, and I think most who voted for PDJT, want to see MASS deportations. Thousands a day. Not 20 bad hombres. Thousands of people who crossed the border illegally. So, his numbers on this issue may drop for that fact alone.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:43 am to
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That judge upheld the decision to deport Kilmar but the 18th Street Gang no longer exists as a threat in El Salvador, which was the basis for that judge’s determination.


Are you saying that the immigration judge's hold order prohibiting Abrego Garcia’s deportation to El Salvador (see first item in attached ICE Field Director's affidavit) dissolved AUTOMATICALLY? I'm just not aware of any practice in law or administrative procedure where that could be true...but I'm willing to learn.

Thanks

This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 7:46 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:48 am to
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Everyone agrees that deporting criminal aliens is legal. However, ALL the judges and justices who have reviewed the facts and the law agree that deporting THIS illegal alien TO El Salvador WAS illegal because of the hold order explicitly prohibiting Abrego Garcia’s deportation to El Salvador. This is not a close or even debatable question of law.


And to reiterate, this question of law that is not debatable has nothing to do with how good or bad he was as a person. He could have been the worst person in the history of humanity who killed a hundred babies in their cribs and it wouldn't change the legal argument or conclusion
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:49 am to
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And yet, you support China

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