Started By
Message

talking points coming that the spike in gas is the same or worse under Trump

Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:28 pm
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6653 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:28 pm


Comparing Gas increase under Biden and Trump based on AI

Biden

The surge in gasoline prices during the Biden administration—which peaked at a national average of over $5 per gallon in June 2022—was driven by a confluence of global factors.

Rebound in demand following COVID-19 pandemic lockdowns, supply chain bottlenecks.
Significant supply shock resulting from Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
- Post-COVID Demand Surge: As pandemic restrictions eased, global demand for oil rebounded much faster than supply. Diminished production capacity from 2020 left suppliers unable to meet the new, high demand.
- Russia-Ukraine War: Russia's invasion of Ukraine in early 2022 triggered a global energy crisis. The U.S. ban on Russian oil imports—part of a global effort to penalize Moscow—further tightened global supply.OPEC+ - Production Restraints: OPEC+ countries kept production cuts in place longer than expected, maintaining low supply levels even as demand soared.
- Underinvestment in Refining Capacity: U.S. refineries, some of which had reduced operations or shut down during the pandemic, struggled to keep up with demand. Additionally, a lack of long-term investment in refining infrastructure contributed to supply constraints.

Debated Factors Regarding Administration Policy
- Critics frequently blame President Biden's energy policies for the price spikes, pointing to the cancellation of the Keystone XL pipeline and a temporary freeze on new oil and gas leases on federal lands.
- Administration Rationale: The Biden administration stated these actions were part of a long-term strategy to address climate change and transition away from fossil fuels.

Analyst View: Energy analysts have stated that while these actions created long-term uncertainty for producers, they had little immediate impact on the high prices in 2021 and 2022.
Actions Taken to Mitigate Rising Prices - To combat the rising costs, the Biden administration authorized a historic release of 180 million barrels of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) in 2022, which helped to temper price increases toward the end of the year.

Trump

Based on reports from early 2026, the gasoline price spike is primarily attributed to a sharp, rapid escalation in the Middle East.

Attack on Iran: On February 28, 2026, the U.S. and Israel initiated military strikes against Iran, leading to significant volatility in oil markets.

Strait of Hormuz Closure: Iran responded by closing the Strait of Hormuz, a critical maritime chokepoint through which approximately 20% of global oil trade passes.50% Price Increase: Following these events, oil prices rose by roughly 50%.Fuel Price Surge: The surge in crude oil prices directly translated to gasoline prices, which spiked over a dollar per gallon in the weeks following the conflict's start.

Comparison to Prior Periods

Unlike the 2021-2022 price increases—which were attributed to a mix of post-COVID supply lags and the Russia-Ukraine war—the 2026 spike is specifically tied to the consequences of the military action against Iran and the resulting disruption of shipping routes.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
29579 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:33 pm to
EVERYTHING IS TRUMP"S FAULT

[/img]

Posted by BigAL Golesh
Member since Apr 2026
140 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:36 pm to
3x Trump voter here. The price of gas is Trumps fault. Full stop.

Dont be a hypocrite
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173643 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:37 pm to
The 22 spike was inevitable. This one was avoidable. That's the difference. And it would be foolish to think that they've peaked for the year IMO. Things could still continue to increase if things aren't stabilized in the middle east
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
11006 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

3x Trump voter here. The price of gas is Trumps fault. Full stop. Dont be a hypocrite
LOL, right on cue.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29205 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

The 22 spike was inevitable.


A spike to some extent in 2022, actually coming out of COVID crash and production cutbacks, was expected. That is true.

The Biden Administration's rhetoric towards the oil & gas industry, as well as his actions his first few months in office, didn't help. You can't keep flinging anti-fossil fuel rhetoric and lashing out at the industry and not think that investors and speculators are betting on a shoe to drop to curtail domestic production.
Posted by BigAL Golesh
Member since Apr 2026
140 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

LOL, right on cue.
Should i have said 4x voter? Every primary, every election. Is that right?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173643 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

The Biden Administration's rhetoric towards the oil & gas industry, as well as his actions his first few months in office, didn't help. You can't keep flinging anti-fossil fuel rhetoric and lashing out at the industry and not think that investors and speculators are betting on a shoe to drop to curtail domestic production.

Be specific. What did he actually do to curtail investment?
Posted by Eldodroptop
Member since Jul 2021
3677 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

The 22 spike was inevitable. This one was avoidable


You are a damn fool if you genuinely believe what is currently happening in the Middle East was avoidable.

Kicking the can down the road with Iran was, and is, no solution. This was always going to happen, should have been taken care of during the Reagan administration, and barring that, every administration since.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17198 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Trump voter here. The price of gas is Trumps fault. Full stop.

Dont be a hypocrite


The situations aren't remotely comparable. The prices are not up as a result of economic policies or energy policies, they are up as a result of an international conflict in which one faction deliberately closed an essential route for oil with the specific intent of raising prices as a war strategy.

You can argue, yeah, but we didn't HAVE to start hostilities with Iran, but then you might as well just say we have let Iran do whatever they want if they threaten to violate international law and close the straight, including procuring nuclear weapons for their own purposes.

So really, for all intents and purposes, the comparison between gas prices under Biden vs Trump are not remotely the same.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29205 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Be specific. What did he actually do to curtail investment?


Cancelled a large pipeline project that, while come today probably doesn't have a huge effect, caused anxiousness across industry that he would do the same to other projects.

Issued a 60 day moratorium on any Federal actions related to new oil & gas projects. Not just drilling permits, but also easements for pipelines, powerlines, facility sites, frac ponds, etc.

Cancelled multiple Federal lease sales.

Now...did any of the above have an immediate effect on domestic production numbers? Not really. But when you have industry walking on egg shells wondering if this is just political red meat to throw to his leftist base, or if this will be a normal re-occurring theme for his administration over a four year period...then yeah...markets react as if production might be really curtailed in the future and investors are weary that they may fork over money only to have his administration yank a project out from under them without any reimbursement. Just like he did to TC Energy.

Again, he alone wasn't the cause for a spike, but he helped make it worse.
Posted by CajunTripper
Member since Apr 2026
28 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:55 pm to
your a damn fool to believe that the outcome will be anything different then what Obama did in 2016......
Posted by Eldodroptop
Member since Jul 2021
3677 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

your a damn fool to believe that the outcome will be anything different then what Obama did in 2016......


Kicking the can down the road?

Because this isn’t that.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90554 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 1:58 pm to
CajunAlter welcome aboard!
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37988 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

supply chain bottlenecks.

That was 100% on the Biden administration, who allowed Mayor Pete Buttplug to take "maternity leave" and derelict his duty of Transportation Secretary during the largest supply chain crisis since the post-WW2 installation of the Interstate Highway System.

I guess AI didn't take that part into consideration.

Trump has had some pretty crappy cabinet choices during both of his administrations, but NONE were as terrible and absolutely atrocious as Pete Buttplug. Not even close. Buttplug was the very definition of a post turtle. He was worse at Transportation Secretary than Harris was as VP, and that's REALLY saying something.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
27854 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

The 22 spike was inevitable. This one was avoidable.


Was the spike in '22 inevitable?

In all likelihood, prices would have gone up, what with the pandemic ending and people were starting to travel again in '21. We all expected a spike in Demand and we know that the supply was lower, due to Covid cutbacks in production.

However, what did Biden to when he got into office? He declared war on fossil fuels. He also cancelled all new drilling permits on federal lands and forced oil companies to drill on private lands. The impact of his administration's policies that were anti-fossil fuels are what caused it to go up to the peaks that they hit, which was not inevitable.

When you come out of a pandemic and you know that the population has gone a year and a half without taking a vacation, you have to know that trying to curtail production is going to lead to price spikes. He should have been saying, "Drill baby, drill".

Of course, the courts forced him to start resuming federal leases, which was good for him, because he didn't want to go against his base and start resuming oil leases on public land.
Posted by public_enemy
Member since Feb 2015
5131 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 2:16 pm to
Gotta love the hoops the cultist that value trump more than the American people will jump through to justify daddy’s big gas prices
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29205 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

He declared war on fossil fuels.


Yes he did.

quote:

He also cancelled all new drilling permits on federal lands and forced oil companies to drill on private lands.


No he didn't.

New federal drill permits, after his idiotic 60 day moratorium, were approved under his administration. Times lagged a bit. More red tape was added. But there was a shite ton of drilling of federal acreage under the Biden Administration. No way would the U.S. have set domestic production records if companies weren't able to drill on Federal Lands, when you consider the huge amount of Fed acreage in the heart of Permian New Mexico.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23773 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 2:24 pm to
IMO, gas prices, especially bordering on the $4 a gallon price is something very tangible and painful that's going to be felt by everyone. Yea, Trump is in office, helped start this war, and he IS to blame just like Biden, Obama, and W were. It's been a major miscalculation in an otherwise fairly clean presidency.
This post was edited on 5/4/26 at 2:27 pm
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4686 posts
Posted on 5/4/26 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

Dont be a hypocrite
Don't be a panican. We're just giving back some of the money we saved on gas in President Trump's first year.
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 3Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram