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re: Taliban has taken Kabul. Terrorist attack at Airport at least 12 marines confirmed killed
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:46 pm to LatinTiger30
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:46 pm to LatinTiger30
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To these anti-Biden people facts no longer exist as we have come to learn.
Answer my question: Was pulling out in the middle of the night and not letting your allied government know part of the agreement?
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:47 pm to LatinTiger30
there's no defending Biden here bud
just wish the criticisms were consistent over the last 20 years we wasted
just wish the criticisms were consistent over the last 20 years we wasted
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:47 pm to LatinTiger30
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You got to consider the motive of people posting shite anti-Biden. They’re all about what's the flavor of the month and not about facts. To these anti-Biden people facts no longer exist as we have come to learn.
The person who owns today is Biden. Just days ago the administration thought they had 6 months till the taliban reached Kabul.
Im glad we are getting out but not at a disorganized disaster for Americans.
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:47 pm to Centinel
quote:Probably not, as everything that seems to have been done has been either in accordance with the Taliban or without letting anyone know, specifically not the Afghan government.
Answer my question: Was pulling out in the middle of the night and not letting your allied government know part of the agreement?
This post was edited on 8/15/21 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:48 pm to LatinTiger30
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You got to consider the motive of people posting shite anti-Biden. They’re all about what's the flavor of the month and not about facts. To these anti-Biden people facts no longer exist as we have come to learn.
Most people recognize this was going to be a shite show regardless of whomever pulled everyone out. The issue is the actual pull out of our non-combat types is so, so idiotically organized.
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:48 pm to Pettifogger
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fairness, if you're a journalist in fricking Kabul with an 11 month old...
I'm not sure I'm prepared to blame the administration
Yeah saw journalist there today
On today's age why do they need to be there?
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:48 pm to LatinTiger30
quote:
To these anti-Biden people facts no longer exist as we have come to learn.
Youve ignored every fact given to you so far.
Its a fricking disaster and it's Joe Bidens fault.
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:49 pm to WestCoastAg
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its totally dependent on what happens with american citizens who are being told to shelter in place. if there is no plan to get them out and we actually leave them behind for the men to be executed and the women and children to be turned into actual slaves then yea, this is the policy disaster in american history and honestly biden should be impeached
100% agree
I'm still expecting that not to be the case. But even if they're all safely evaced but it comes under the propaganda of the Taliban allowing the defeated Americans to go - it's still a foreign policy catastrophe that could have pretty easily have been avoided.
Ultimately, is that all optics? Yes, provided they're safe. But it will dictate how we talk about this for 20, 50, 100 years, so pretenses and narratives do matter.
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:49 pm to rocket31
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just wish the criticisms were consistent over the last 20 years we wasted
I blame all the Presidents for the bullshite idea of "nation building". We should have gone in, wrecked shite, and left.
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:49 pm to LatinTiger30
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anti-Biden.
How the frick could anyone with an ounce of objectivity support that pudding brained pedo after all this?
You people that are still in his corner are fricked in the head. Women and kids are about to be raped and men killed and desecrated.
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:49 pm to LatinTiger30
quote:20 years and I think $2 trillion, all for what we all should have known would happen the moment we left, the Taliban would take back over.
Our tax dollars wasted, well that's a surprise no matter what US ADMINISTRATION
The biggest issue and where I think all the focus should be, is leaving with no warning and stranding our non-Military American citizens, that is indefensible.
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:49 pm to Centinel
quote:He's a simpleton that distinguish between the decision and it's implementation.
Answer my question: Was pulling out in the middle of the night and not letting your allied government know part of the agreement?
Virtually no one has a problem with the decision to leave.
But it was Biden that conducted the withdrawl in the most undignified and embarrassing manner. That's what people have problem with. The implementation.
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Peter Engle reporting from Kabul
Covid?? They’re freaking worried about covid restrictions?? Go to about 2:00.
Covid?? They’re freaking worried about covid restrictions?? Go to about 2:00.

Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:50 pm to thelawnwranglers
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On today's age why do they need to be there?
I can see a journalist being there, but not with an 11 month old.
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:50 pm to Centinel
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It's how it was done, along with a complete lack of contingency planning. Going on TV saying the Taliban won't take back over and having it happen in weeks, not months or years, doesn't help either.
Pretty much what I'm saying. Gauging a clusterfrick vs. a best-possible-shitshow.
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:51 pm to Centinel
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blame all the Presidents for the bullshite idea of "nation building". We should have gone in, wrecked shite, and left.
Yep if you build poorly we wreck again and people go fish
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:52 pm to MrLSU
Well at least France doesn’t hold the record anymore for “Fastest time for your country to be conquered.”
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:53 pm to Taxing Authority
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Virtually no one has a problem with the decision to leave.
Fact.
But who can believe he said just a week ago that the Taliban was no threat to take over Afghanistan?
Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:55 pm to tiger91
quote:Pudding…
Joe was doing what prior to this ...

Posted on 8/15/21 at 12:55 pm to thelawnwranglers
In case we need an actual sign that the Talibaws just don't fit with the OT, this is it:

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#Taliban are in complete control of #Afghanistan. This is a picture of one of the streets of #Kabul where people are spraying paint on pictures of women.
#AfghanistanBurning
#??????_????? LINK

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