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re: Supreme Court sides with Trump administration on using AEA to deport Venezuelans.

Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:25 pm to
Posted by Commander Rabb
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:25 pm to
Amy CB voted with the libs. Surprise, surprise.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2408 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:27 pm to
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That said, I hope you guys are comfortable with a Dem president making unreviewable decisions on who is a terrorist or gang member.


Thevdetermination is reviewable. SCOTUS has said so and the Administration has consistently said so.
Posted by Passing Wind
Dutchtown
Member since Apr 2015
4853 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:28 pm to
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Boasberg
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65858 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:28 pm to
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That said, I hope you guys are comfortable with a Dem president making unreviewable decisions on who is a terrorist or gang member.


Who made this argument in court?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115461 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:33 pm to
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It also noted there is limited judicial review of AEA


Where does the AEA say it includes limited judicial review?


Not of the AEA, but if whether it is applicable.

For example, it only applies to those 14 and older. A court could conduct an inquiry of the age of the person to determine if he is subject to it. If it is determined the person is only 12, it cannot be applied.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476998 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:36 pm to
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For example, it only applies to those 14 and older. A court could conduct an inquiry of the age of the person to determine if he is subject to it. If it is determined the person is only 12, it cannot be applied.

They have argued for weeks this sort of review was not possible.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115461 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:41 pm to
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For example, it only applies to those 14 and older. A court could conduct an inquiry of the age of the person to determine if he is subject to it. If it is determined the person is only 12, it cannot be applied.

They have argued for weeks this sort of review was not possible.


The Court noted it is very limited can only be brought via a habeas petition.

They did not hold the AEA itself is subject to review.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
55991 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:48 pm to
Like an Avalanche, rolling down a mountain
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476998 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:50 pm to
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The Court noted it is very limited can only be brought via a habeas petition.

They did not hold the AEA itself is subject to review.

No I get it, but they (as in posters not participants in the litigation) argued for weeks that the courts couldn't review anything (even your hypo). They argued once the President/admin made a determination relating to invoking the AEA, that was final. End of story.
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
11575 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:53 pm to
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This was not a ruling on the merits, scholar


I and we told you DISTRICT court judges didn't have authority to make these rulings on happenings outside their district.

You rebuffed that notion.

But you will never admit you were wrong. Never.
Posted by Passing Wind
Dutchtown
Member since Apr 2015
4853 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:56 pm to
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Bunk Moreland
you're one abortion I’d have been ok with back in the day
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
10585 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:31 am to
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SFP isn't going to like this, not one bit.


That stupid bitch is wrong again


"Obviously, this is the worst ruling since Roe v Wade. Congress has not declared war against Vene-Salvado-Xico and the high Court clearly voted on ideological lines... This is a sad day for all Americans. Finally -- This is lawfare..." - SFP probably
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
28937 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:34 am to
It's crazy we live in a time where you need a supreme court ruling to remove foreign illegal thugs from your country.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:51 am to
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No I get it,
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but they (as in posters
Imagine toiling all those years in law school to larp 8 hours a day as a righteous warrior against evil misguided message board posters. Keep fighting the good fight
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
12782 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:55 am to
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That said, I hope you guys are comfortable with a Dem president making unreviewable decisions on who is a terrorist or gang member.


Is this not what happened with the J6ers?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476998 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:57 am to
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I and we told you DISTRICT court judges didn't have authority to make these rulings on happenings outside their district.

You rebuffed that notion.

And I'm still right

The USSC didn't change that law. It just ruled the district court was incorrect in some procedural areas.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476998 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:59 am to
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Imagine toiling all those years in law school




"Toiling" does not describe my time in law school.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:05 am to
SFP, Gamecockultimate, and IvoryBill.
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
6349 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:10 am to
All nine members agreed judicial review was available. The 5-4 was on the procedural question of how to access that review
Posted by Cobbvol
Member since Jun 2020
253 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:13 am to
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The USSC didn't change that law. It just ruled the district court was incorrect in some procedural areas.


Like not instructing the plaintiffs to file in Texas and then try to get involved in military flight operations involving national security.
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