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re: Supreme Court sides with Trump administration on using AEA to deport Venezuelans.

Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:55 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:55 pm to
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was his opinion on his interpretation of the Constitution

The court did not rule on this

Try again
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:56 pm to
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This seems to split with the post-WW2 case that was making the rounds immediately after.


It opens the door at the least

It certainly isn't as cut and dry as many on here declared.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 6:57 pm to
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This was not a ruling on the merits, scholar



You think they were just flipping a coin, heads ‘for’ tails ‘against’ and she got tails?
Posted by antibarner
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:10 pm to
It cut that dictator Boasberg off at the legs however.
Posted by TDTOM
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:11 pm to
So, are we done with this or not?
Posted by jbdawgs03
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:12 pm to
@bunk Moreland
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:13 pm to
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You think they were just flipping a coin, heads ‘for’ tails ‘against’ and she got tails?

The merits of the AEA argument. That's still going to be litigated.

This was a procedural ruling without tipping the cap a little about the merits, but by no means a definitive foreshadow, imho
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:17 pm to
This is what I said last week.
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For the record, I hate the case with the Turkish girl based on what we know.

I don't like the Khalil situation, but it's a little murkier. If .gov has good evidence he has provided material support for Hamas, toss him. If it's just words, I don't like it. That's Israel first.

On Tren de Aragua, I hate to say it, but if 200 foreign gang thugs were properly deported and one or two good eggs wound up on the mix, that's the way the ball bounces. But, there is also a part of me that feels there must be some review of the executive/administrative process.


That said, I hope you guys are comfortable with a Dem president making unreviewable decisions on who is a terrorist or gang member.
Posted by Nosevens
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:33 pm to
Supposedly Judges don’t like to be overruled on their opinions or decisions. These lawfare twerps seem not to think that it matters
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:33 pm to
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SFP isn't going to like this, not one bit.



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That stupid bitch is wrong again


He’s so high on the smell of his own farts, I’m sure he’ll explain why the Supreme Court is wrong and he knows more about constitutional law than they do.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:40 pm to
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He’s so high on the smell of his own farts, I’m sure he’ll explain why the Supreme Court is wrong

I don't have to

If you were smart enough to understand why, you'd have known that prior to making yourself look silly (like always)
Posted by hogcard1964
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:44 pm to
I hope we hear of his demise ASAP.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
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19985 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:51 pm to
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Supposedly Judges don’t like to be overruled on their opinions or decisions. These lawfare twerps seem not to think that it matters


It wouldn't have mattered. There was zero chance Trump was going to listen to the previous law fare.

That boy was never coming back into our country.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:53 pm to
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SlowFlowPro


You’re the worst sort of idiot, the type that so stupid you’re oblivious to the fact you are in fact an idiot.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
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7878 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 7:54 pm to
I don’t see why either the Trumpists or the wise Latina or Ms Jackson are hyperventilating. All nine justices agree that due process applies. Barrett didn’t even join with much of the dissent’s opinion.
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 8:45 pm
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:09 pm to
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udtiger


Appreciate the nuance. People are downvoting but posts like yours really add to the discussion imo
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20283 posts
Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:22 pm to
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It also noted there is limited judicial review of AEA


Where does the AEA say it includes limited judicial review?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:22 pm to
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You’re the worst sort of idiot, the type that so stupid you’re oblivious to the fact you are in fact an idiot.

Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:24 pm to
What is the split?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/7/25 at 8:24 pm to
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Where does the AEA say it includes limited judicial review?

I mean, it's a law. By default it's going to be subject to some judicial review.

Our legal system isn't based in "trust me bro" analysis.

This is from the ruling today:

quote:

The detainees also sought equitable relief against summary removal. Although judicial review under the AEA is limited, we have held that an individual subject to detention and removal under that statute is entitled to “‘judicial review’” as to “questions of interpretation and constitutionality” of the Act as well as whether he or she “is in fact an alien enemy fourteen years of age or older.” Ludecke, 335 U. S., at 163-164, 172, n. 17. (Under the Proclamation, the term “alien enemy” is defined to include “all Venezuelan citizens 14 years of age or older who are members of TdA, are within the United States, and are not actually naturalized or lawful permanent residents of the United States.” 90 Fed. Reg. 13034.) The detainees’ rights against summary removal, however, are not currently in dispute. The Government expressly agrees that “TdA members subject to removal under the Alien Enemies Act get judicial review.” Reply in Support of Application To Vacate 1. “It is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law” in the context of removal proceedings. Reno v. Flores, 507 U. S. 292, 306 (1993). So, the detainees are entitled to notice and opportunity to be heard “appropriate to the nature of the case.”


Nobody tell Darth, but this is the USSC saying, "SFP was right"
This post was edited on 4/7/25 at 8:25 pm
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