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re: Supreme Court - "Sex discrimination" includes gay and transgender discrimination
Posted on 6/15/20 at 12:29 pm to the808bass
Posted on 6/15/20 at 12:29 pm to the808bass
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And according to normal people, that’s hilarious.
Normal people don’t have law degrees and generally know little about not only constitutional law but the entire basis of the federal legal system that the founding fathers adopted.
But laugh away.
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 12:32 pm to FalseProphet
It's always amazing to see how much hate this board can muster up. Good for you all. Keeping hating on everything that's different from you :)
Posted on 6/15/20 at 12:49 pm to the808bass
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And according to normal people, that’s hilarious.
I doubt it. If you polled a group of "normal" people, most would have told you they assumed it was already against the law to fire someone for being gay.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 12:50 pm to GRTiger
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If you polled a group of "normal" people, most would have told you they assumed it was already against the law to fire someone for being gay.
I’m speaking specifically of extending the protections of sex discrimination to transgender.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 12:52 pm to SammyTiger
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Normal people don’t have law degrees and generally know little about not only constitutional law but the entire basis of the federal legal system that the founding fathers adopted.
Normal people can read.
Scalia knew a little bit about constitutional law, an here's what he said about liberals on the court in US vs Windsor:
"I promise you this: The only thing that will “confine” the Court’s holding is its sense of what it can get away with."
We're seeing what they think they can get away with.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 12:59 pm to udtiger
"This is when I miss Scalia."
Here's something really interesting about this decision: Gorsuch (for majority), and both dissents (by Alito and Kav) all cite to Scalia's book on how to interpret statutes. It was WWSD? case.
Here's something really interesting about this decision: Gorsuch (for majority), and both dissents (by Alito and Kav) all cite to Scalia's book on how to interpret statutes. It was WWSD? case.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:00 pm to lsufball19
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The idea that the SCOTUS function isn't to make interpretations of the Fourteenth Amendment protections is a pretty ignorant position to hold.
What the f*ck are you talking about?
Have you read the opinion?
It has nothing to do with "interpretations" of an potentially ambiguous Constitutional provision.
Gorsuch literally redefined the word "sex" in a statute. Congress has attempted on several occasions to amend the definition and failed.
To attempt to classify this opinion as just an "interpretation" is, at best, plainly f*cking ignorant, and, at worst, intellectually bankrupt simply because it supports your political/policy viewpoint.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:09 pm to SammyTiger
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Normal people don’t have law degrees and generally know little about not only constitutional law but the entire basis of the federal legal system that the founding fathers adopted.
Don’t drag the founding fathers into your butt sex party.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:19 pm to Tigerlaff
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I'm going to be very disappointed if they chose to create a new protected class while also refusing to hear several extremely important 2nd amendment cases
This. I couldn't care less about the lgbtq decision here, but I want to hear a single good reason they won't rule on some of those disputed 2A cases.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:31 pm to BRbornandraised
quote:They did not. Alito pointed this out in his dissent. He showed that they were falsely limited the situation to a homosexual man and a heterosexual woman, both of whom are attracted to men, but the only difference being their sex. Alito pointed out that if you expand the hypothetical to include a heterosexual man and a homosexual woman that the issue evaporates because you then have the deciding factor being homosexual attraction, not sex/gender, as the two employees that remain are of different sexes.
They interpreted that firing a man for dating a man while not firing a woman for dating a man is discrimination based on sex which violates the constitution... They did what they were supposed to do.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:32 pm to IAmNERD
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I couldn't care less about the lgbtq decision here,
You should. They're telling all of us that words mean whatever the hell they want them to mean to fit their political agenda. If you don't think they won't do the same when it comes to the 2nd you've been living under a rock.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:34 pm to SammyTiger
quote:When you "interpret" the law in a way that runs contrary to the letter of the law and the intent of the law-makers, you stop interpreting and start legislating.
Well according to them this was always the law.
That’s how judicial interpretation works.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:48 pm to Pettifogger
Agreed. Gay fits in the Civil Rights act of 1964 as a document that blurs the lines between public and private.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 2:16 pm to tissle
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It's always amazing to see how much hate this board can muster up. Good for you all. Keeping hating on everything that's different from you :)
I was 15 years ahead of the SCOTUS in regards to Obergefell v Hodges. Not being able to reap the same financial benefits afforded to opposite sex couples because of the inability to receive a marriage certificate is exactly the type of societal change a legislative authority should address.
I just didn’t agree with that decision being legislated through the courts nor the opinion the court took towards due process and equal protection to rule on it.
This decision makes the 2015 decision seem reasoned and compelling.
I’d invite you to argue the merits of the decision any time of day. Else I believe your intentions to be malign and determined not to be persuaded by any measure of reason.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 2:23 pm to momentoftruth87
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I personally would not hire one of these ppl though.
Damn near impossible to get them out once you let them in. The key is to NEVER have anything concrete that can be attacked to you and twisted to appear as anti weirdo. There’s always a reason to not hire someone the key is making e decision appear as though it’s based on a convenient reason.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 3:38 pm to Hoops
WARNER ROBINS, Ga. — A transgender Houston County deputy is suing the county because it refused to pay medical expenses for her transition as recommended by her doctors.
The lawsuit claims that Houston County denied Deputy Anna Lange equal benefits and discriminated against her based on sex and disability.
LINK
The lawsuit claims that Houston County denied Deputy Anna Lange equal benefits and discriminated against her based on sex and disability.
LINK
Posted on 6/15/20 at 3:52 pm to tissle
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It's always amazing to see how much hate this board can muster up. Good for you all. Keeping hating on everything that's different from you :)
I actually decided to come over here from the OT and read the thread for myself. It’s absolutely unreal how much vitriol and hatred some of you folks have for LGBTQ folks. Just sad and disheartening.
Posted on 6/15/20 at 3:54 pm to FalseProphet
Our country needs a Physician, it’s sick.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 7:41 am to BRbornandraised
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You can fire him if he is incompetent or unqualified. But dressing a certain way or putting something on him face doesnt make it so.
Yes it does. If you're so incompetent that you think a man dressing like a woman is professional, then you are too incompetent to work here.
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