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Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:12 pm to MSMHater
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As long as we all agree that you're just a populist liberal (bordering on tyrannical), JJ, then I have no problem with your stance. You want big government to modify behavior to its most "healthy" and with minimal financial impact to society. You're certainly not alone in that camp.
Then you would be wrong.
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Your science angle is shite, mostly, but there is no denying some negative financial consequences nationally from ingestion over the long term on such a macro scale.
No, it's not. We already have a healthcare issue in the USA. Obamacare etc. As pointed out, Michigan spent 1.5 billion in education alone on people with LD. That's not healthcare costs... that education.
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You're also completely disregarding the generated revenue that would counteract those expected costs. But considering your posts above, I at least better understand the angle.
Oh no. I'm not disregarding anything. As I said, and others, we are just pushing it without regard to study.
It appears we just need our high at any cost. Ram it through.
There are plenty of studies that show the effect in non developed as well as fully developed minds.
Pot causes precancerous lung changes
But let's just push this on and hide behind liberty.
I think we should now stop all law suits against any Big pharma companies.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:13 pm to Breesus
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You have yet to post a single credible marketed lie in this thread.
Sure I have
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You are a progressive from another mother
LOL! No.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:16 pm to DavidTheGnome
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You're topic is potential detrimental effects you are worried people having as a result of marijuana legalization. So yeah if criminalization is having detrimental effects then it has to do with the topic. Don't break the law. Land of the free. Government knows best.
This nation was not established as a land free of laws.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:17 pm to DavidTheGnome
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What results are we starting to see?
Kids born with LD from MJ users.
And that usage is up in teens through 24.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:18 pm to Jjdoc
quote:This.
This nation was not established as a land free of laws.
Also, I hate when Conservatives get attacked for being in favor of certain regulations because we claim to be for "small government". Small government != no government, and some regulation is fine. What we tend to argue about are the specific things that should be regulated and how much regulation should be done for those things.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:18 pm to Jjdoc
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We already have a healthcare issue in the USA. Obamacare etc. As pointed out, Michigan spent 1.5 billion in education alone on people with LD.
1. Pregnant women aren't supposed to do drugs of any kind including caffine and advil.
2. You have yet to link a study showing the necessary dose of THC/CBD to inhibit or change fetal development especially as it relates to Learning disabilities.
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Pot causes precancerous lung changes
Does THC and/or CBD cause that or is it igniting plant matter wrapped in paper on fire and inhaling it?
That's an important distinction to make.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:19 pm to Jjdoc
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Then you would be wrong.
I'm sure it's very difficult for you to admit to yourself, but your words lay it out pretty clearly.
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Oh no. I'm not disregarding anything.
Yet, you again ignored it. And haven't given the billions in revenue a single sentence in this entire thread. That is disregarding a valid point. Your subject even specifies the the cost side of the equation, but the revenue side is never mentioned.
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But let's just push this on and hide behind liberty.
That would be my preference, yes. Based on my personal beliefs that liberty/freedom TRUMPS ones personal safety and moral objections. We already have remedies if those activities happen to harm you or yours. So the potential for medical consequences for users is a big
to me. IDGAFThis post was edited on 1/8/18 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:22 pm to Breesus
People don't smoke paper and plant matter unless it gets them high so I don't see what the big difference is
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:24 pm to el Gaucho
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People don't smoke paper and plant matter unless it gets them high
I don't inhale any combustion. No paper, no plant, no ash. Still high.
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so I don't see what the big difference is
We know, Gaucho. We don't hold it against you.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:25 pm to Jjdoc
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hide behind liberty
Sounds like something worth "hiding" behind imo.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:26 pm to FooManChoo
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Also, I hate when Conservatives get attacked for being in favor of certain regulations because we claim to be for "small government". Small government != no government, and some regulation is fine.
Agreed.
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What we tend to argue about are the specific things that should be regulated and how much regulation should be done for those things.
True.
I have plenty of friends that are attorneys. Some of them are already talking law suits against states for the health issues.
LINK
This is why they are looking into it.
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The maker of the candy, Gaia's Garden LLC, and its distributor, Nutritional Elements Inc., both of Denver, stand accused of failing to warn customers that edibles could lead to paranoia, psychosis and hallucinations.
"The packaging and labeling for the potent candy contained no directions, instructions or recommendations respecting the product's proper consumption or use," said the lawsuit filed in May in Denver District Court. "The edible producers negligently, recklessly and purposefully concealed vital dosage and labeling information from their actual and prospective purchasers including Kirk in order to make a profit."
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:26 pm to Jjdoc
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We have sold this as a harmless herb. As a miracle drug. Now we will have to deal with the cost of Pot babies in healthcare and in education due to learning disabilities. Prenatal marijuana exposure may also have a persistent negative effect throughout childhood on what researchers call higher-order thinking, which includes problem solving, memory, planning, attention, and controlling impulsivity. Some studies show lower academic scores in these children.
I just concluded from the number of down votes that have been dropped on your OP that we have a lot of hippy lettuce smokers on the PT board. Oh, and don’t none of you fricks come back with that libertarian BS, ain’t buying it, you’re potheads!
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:26 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You are a progressive from another mothe
LOL
Yup.
That dude calls himself conservative? shite, he's basically Toddy.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:27 pm to Jjdoc
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Prenatal marijuana exposure may also have a persistent negative effect throughout childhood on what researchers call higher-order thinking, which includes problem solving, memory, planning, attention, and controlling impulsivity. Some studies show lower academic scores in these children.
Ummmmm......what was the comparison vs those women that smoked cigarettes? I mean, because smoking is ok....right?
BTW, lower academic scores may correlate with the trashy background these kids come from. I'd postulate that these subjects were relatively lower on the socio-economic scale.
Study is bullshite and developed by a large pharma that may lose billions to cannabis. You do know high fructose corn syrup is fine for you? Corn industry said so.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:27 pm to Bass Tiger
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and don’t none of you fricks come back with that libertarian BS, ain’t buying it, you’re potheads!
Porque no los dos?
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:28 pm to Bass Tiger
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don’t none of you fricks come back with that libertarian BS, ain’t buying it, you’re potheads!
Why not both?
ETA: Dammit Hemphead.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:29 pm to ShortyRob
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he's basically Toddy.
Toddy lies less.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:29 pm to Jjdoc
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hide behind liberty.
That's a bizarrely weird way to view someone promoting individual freedom.
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think we should now stop all law suits against any Big pharma companies.
Big Pharma markets lethal and addictive synthetic narcotics as safe everyday use products for people of all ages and conditions.
Look at the young children put on adderhol and xanex.
You want to talk about two insanely dangerous narcotica marketed as safe for children.
Pot is a basically safe recreational drug marketed as a dangerous substance for adults.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 1:32 pm
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