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re: Study shows Pot is starting to effect healthcare and educational costs

Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:44 pm to
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Actually most marijuana is grown in labs by cartels and phish fans


I certainly am no expert on the market these days,and I don't know if I ever met a cartel,or a Phish Fan.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55615 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:45 pm to
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what are you? Some kind of proponent for fulltime martial law...


No. I'm for not selling a drug to the public as safe.

We are starting to see the results.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55615 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:47 pm to
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they (Doctors) will also say that red wine is ok to consume during pregnancy


Drs are not promoting it as safe for morning sickness. The pot industry is.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:49 pm to
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Ao you are ok with pot being promited as healthy



Relevance?

What does this have to do with whether or not it should be legal?
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:49 pm to
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Marijuana may be even safer than previously thought .



That doesn't promote it as 100% safe. It says it is safer than previously thoght, and again I'll ask you safe in what context?

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Latest Studies Confirm Medical Marijuana Is Safe Long-Term

Medical Marijunana used for medical purposes is safe long term. Its not habit forming, its not physically addictive, and you can't overdose on it. That's a fact. What problem do you have with this?

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Scientific Studies From 2016 Showing Marijuana Is Safe and Effective

Safe and effective in what context? Something cant just "be effective" . That doesnt make any sense. And that link is just stating that it is safer that most alternative recreational drugs, which is again factually true, and again if it is net safer , isn't that a good thing?

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Breast milk while smoking pot is better than formula


Well. Is it? Do you have a study that moderate pot use leads to neurological development issues in a fetus?

Your link in the OP says "pre-natal pot use by a mother may lead to a decreased higher level thinking" what is the study on the parents of those children?

If a dumbass set of parents smokes weed and produces a dumbass kid it's most likely because of genetics and environment that the kid is a dumbasss. Not pot.

Again you seem to be confusing correlation with causation quite often.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23249 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:50 pm to
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When your freedom effect my family... damn straight.

When your freedom is based on lies.... Damn straight.


As long as we all agree that you're just a populist liberal (bordering on tyrannical), JJ, then I have no problem with your stance. You want big government to modify behavior to its most "healthy" and with minimal financial impact to society. You're certainly not alone in that camp.

Your science angle is shite, mostly, but there is no denying some negative financial consequences nationally from ingestion over the long term on such a macro scale. Though you are completely guessing what those impacts would be. You're also completely disregarding the generated revenue that would counteract those expected costs. But considering your posts above, I at least better understand the angle.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:51 pm to
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When your freedom effect my family... damn straight.



Good lord dude. Responsible recreational pot use doesn't effect your family.

You know what massively effects your family under your definition and issue?

The Sugar Industry.

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When your freedom is based on lies.... Damn straight.


You have yet to post a single credible marketed lie in this thread.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 12:56 pm
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:51 pm to
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When your freedom is based on lies


Boy that is rich coming from someone who claims hundreds fatally overdose on marijuana yearly.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:51 pm to
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Drs are not promoting it as safe for morning sickness. The pot industry is.



You seem to have completely conflated two different issues.

If a legal product is marketed falsely, we have mechanisms that are supposed to deal with that.

That is an ENTIRELY different question from whether the product should be legal.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:52 pm to
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Your science angle is shite


And this is really all that needs to be said. He absolutely has no idea what he’s talking about.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:53 pm to
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quote:
When your freedom effect my family... damn straight.

When your freedom is based on lies.... Damn straight.


You are a progressive from another mother
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:54 pm to
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that's the single most ludicrous comment I have ever seen.





is it also the first comment you've ever seen?
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21126 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:54 pm to
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When your freedom effect my family..

Based on the thread title and this, you don't know the difference affect and effect . Doubt you could handle any serious cannabinoid related study, even excerpts on pubmed.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23249 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:55 pm to
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And this is really all that needs to be said. He absolutely has no idea what he’s talking about.


That's pretty obvious to everyone. But it's hard to sell a point around here by saying "______ could potentially impact my family, so the government needs to make sure that you can't ________."

It's a pretty untenable position on what is considered to be a right leaning board. Thus, the bullshite science angle, and hold onto it for dear life.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31528 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:00 pm to
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Not one damn thing to do with the topic.

However, don't break the f'n law and that would not happen.



You're topic is potential detrimental effects you are worried people having as a result of marijuana legalization. So yeah if criminalization is having detrimental effects then it has to do with the topic.

Don't break the law. Land of the free. Government knows best.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59172 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:00 pm to
After the atheists (most of which are potheads) made Christianity basically illegal for the last 8 years it sure is rich to hear them scream at the sky now that Trump (big Christian btw) made their drug illegal again. How does it feel now that the shoe is on the other foot?
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31528 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:02 pm to
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We are starting to see the results.



What results are we starting to see?
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23249 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:05 pm to
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now that Trump (big Christian btw) made their drug illegal again. How does it feel now that the shoe is on the other foot?


I'll feed you, Gaucho. If only for your continued commitment. But only a little...

It was always illegal for me. I'm in Texas. But I'm also in Houston, where it is decriminalized. I can possess up to 4oz without threat of arrests. Though I never have more than 1 oz on me at a time. So, really, nothing has changed for me in decades other than the election of Kim Ogg locally.

So how does it feel? Exactly the same as it did before Beauregard was ignored by all his federal prosecutors. High.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 1:08 pm
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37534 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:06 pm to
It's also turning us more gay......amirite? Can I get an Amen???????
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59172 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 1:07 pm to
I can only do so much to attempt to reach the struggling addicts like you out there. Even if you don't seek help, at least avoid the school buses and old ladies when you get high and drive
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