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re: Study shows Pot is starting to effect healthcare and educational costs

Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:01 pm to
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That's a whole lot of ignorance in one post.


facts = ignorance to you huh?
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I have yet to see anyone say it has no side effects and in no way effects anyone? Is that what you're claiming? Of course it's not 100% safe in every situation and every application.


We also haven't had the weed education commercials on television,radio,magazines,and newspapers,the way that we have with cigarettes.
The problem was,those warning ads were made AFTER the damage was already done. People were already addicted and harmed.
Do you want to make the same mistake again?
This time,there is a chance to educate first. Why don't we do it?
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:02 pm to
Couldn't they charge more for pot smokers like they do for cigarette smokers or fatties?
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
10010 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:02 pm to
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It should be a given that a woman ought not ingest anything during pregnancy that she wouldn't give to a newborn.


absolutely.

I'll go one further. A good husband (or baby daddy) shouldn't either. Concur not being a dumbass together for the betterment of your offspring.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55615 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:02 pm to
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You're obviously republican, so its the same debate used against gun control "Guns dont kill people, people kill people". This is asinine


No where near the same. Nobody promotes shoting another person is safe.

The pot industry promotes pot as safe. You just promoted it as safe in this thread.

The fact is I linked several pro pot website and news sites that promote it as a way to help morning sickness.

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:03 pm to
Ao you are ok with pot being promited as healthy
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31528 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:04 pm to
I don’t need studies to see that keeping it illegal is hurting people’s lives. Having someone get arrested can impact a whole family, especially when the person arrested loses their job and now their name is popping up on searches making employment more difficult. Those are real, legitimate negative impacts that are occurring now.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 12:16 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299430 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:05 pm to
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Ao you are ok with pot being promited as healthy


I'm ok with it being promoted as a healthier alternative to drugs
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:06 pm to
Pot is a drug
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55615 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:06 pm to
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Nobody is saying that alcohol is safe. 
It has been illegal before,we know how that turned out. 
Alcohol has been around for thousands of years,it was available to people before education was possible. It was already a problem. Same with tobacco.Yes,weed has been around a long time too,but never nearly as popular. 
Do we want another similar mistake? 

If you want to get weed totally legalized,you have to stop claiming that it is totally safe. 
You can't deny any science that is negative to your cause. 
Responsible discussion is required,including the harmful effects. 
You can't just put it on the market,with everyone believing that it is 100% safe.Any company that did that,would find themselves in huge lawsuits pretty fast.You would have to give all of the negatives up front.




100%
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55615 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:09 pm to
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have yet to see anyone say it has no side effects and in no way effects anyone? Is that what you're claiming? Of course it's not 100% safe in every situation and every application.



Tou have ignored the whole topic of this thread to dedend the use of

I linked, yet again saying it, to pro weed and news sites promoting the use of it for morning sickness.

And you still say its not promoted as safe.... or for that matter I have not seen you address that at all.
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
10010 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:12 pm to
Can you agree that MJ is a safer alternative to alcohol?
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55615 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:12 pm to
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And, the argument that it's safer than the legal alcohol isn't an argument. It's scientific fact. So, the whole "Do we want another similar mistake?" needs to be thrown out the conversation.



What??? So you are ok with news promoting as safe for morning sickness..

My God at the need for a high...... jeez
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:14 pm to
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Ao you are ok with pot being promited as healthy


Is anyone actually doing this?

It's a healthier alternative to recreational alcohol use.

And it is a much healthier alternative to alot of pharmaceutical narcotic use, especially as a sleep aid, anxiety, etc...

But i dont think i have ever seen anyone claim:

Weed is 100% healthy with no side effects and should be used constantly by anyone of any age at any time without situational awareness or inhibitions of any kind.

That seems to be what you think is happening. You're arguing against an argument that doesnt exist.

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romoting the use of it for morning sickness.



maybe it is helpful for morning sickness? Do you have a medical study that says it's not? DO you know what dosage and frequency begins to effect the fetus?

Can you contrast that with the current marketplace? What's the ADA approved and marketed cure for morning sickness and how does it affect the development of a fetus? How does the effects of cannibus compare?
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 12:19 pm
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
10010 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:14 pm to
Safe to use with morning sickness?

No, I don't agree. Read my other comments. Then again, I'm no doctor.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:16 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 12:19 pm
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31576 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:18 pm to
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I'm ok with it being promoted as a healthier alternative to drugs


I believe that it is 100% safer than something made in a lab,or an opium based pain killer.

I know way too many, addicted to Prescription drugs too.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31528 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:20 pm to
You seem to be overly concerned with people’s safety and less so with their liberties and freedoms.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59172 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:21 pm to
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Can you agree that MJ is a safer alternative to alcohol?

It's not. Marijuana is more addictive, nobody ever got hooked on beer. plus many people in the pot states get high and drive and cause accidents. And I'm sure smoking it causes lung cancer they just haven't linked them since it is mostly a millenial drug
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:22 pm to
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Modern day prohibitionists.
Was wrong then, is wrong now.




We need to make all drugs legal. Once a large percentage of the population gets stoned it will regulate itself. Go to the Emergency room and both the Nurse and Dr are high. The treatment may be lousy but you won't care.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59172 posts
Posted on 1/8/18 at 12:26 pm to
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quote: I'm ok with it being promoted as a healthier alternative to drugs I believe that it is 100% safer than something made in a lab,or an opium based pain killer.

Actually pills are "opioid based" which isn't opium it's more scientific but you wouldn't understand. Second pills aren't addictive if you take them as directed by your doctor

Which is safer? A medicine sold at a hospital or a dangerous narcotic sold at a housing project?
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