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Student loans cut for college programs that do not deliver positive financial outcomes

Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:08 am
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
8244 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:08 am
quote:

“They are putting together a new earnings threshold test that says Bachelor degree program graduates have to earn more than the median high school graduate in your state 4 years after graduation.

And when it comes to grad school programs, they have to earn more than bachelor's degree graduates for that same type of field in that state within 4 years after their graduate school program.

If the school program fails this test for 2 years in a row, they will lose access to federal Fi, federal student loans. And if more than 50% of the school's programs fail this test, they lose access to all types of federal financial aid programs.”

Here’s what that really means

Colleges can no longer have programs that do not deliver positive financial outcomes for their graduates

The goal is to stop federal taxpayer subsidies via loans and grants for programs that leave graduates financially worse off or no better than if they had skipped college

This is common sense legislation and a huge win for everyone
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 12:09 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55399 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:18 am to
Your headline is misleading. Colleges can have programs that do not deliver positive financial outcomes, they just can’t have federal funding for them.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59187 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:19 am to
Colleges as bastions of progressive indoctrination would come damned near to a screeching halt as their social sciences programs shut down.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138723 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:20 am to
quote:

Colleges can no longer have programs that do not deliver positive financial outcomes
As Penrod said, your OP title is false.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82292 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:21 am to
quote:

Colleges can have programs that do not deliver positive financial outcomes, they just can’t have federal funding for them.


Yes, so if a degree in basket weaving is your thing and you want to pay for it, go on ahead.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14025 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:25 am to
quote:

Yes, so if a degree in basket weaving is your thing and you want to pay for it, go on ahead.


As it should be, from someone with a BA in English Lit who took out $0 in student loans.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
8244 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:40 am to
quote:

As Penrod said, your OP title is false.


There are only so many characters allowed in the title...care to rewrite it to your likeing?
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12268 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:42 am to
quote:

Your headline is misleading. Colleges can have programs that do not deliver positive financial outcomes, they just can’t have federal funding for them.


Question on interpreting this:

1. Do they not get federal funding for those specific programs?

Or

2. Do they not get funding at all if they offer those programs?

Reading further - it looks like answer 2 is on the table if 50% of the college programs offered are determined to be not positive for financial outcomes.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 11:46 am
Posted by BamaChemE
Midland, TX
Member since Feb 2012
7567 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:45 am to
As a chemical engineering professor and tax payer, I like it.


As someone who has to deal with faculty in other colleges, this is going to suck having to listen to the REEEEES (and I actually support learning the classics as part of a fully rounded education)
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
2773 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:45 am to
What about all the professors that have worthless degrees jobs?

How are they going to make a living teaching other people to meet the qualifications for a worthless degree.

Most of these profs are too old or ugly for onlyfans. Uber and door-dash are saturated with illegals.

What do they do now?

What options do they have?
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9282 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:46 am to
While the headline is not correct in the technical sense, one could imagine that any program that will not pass this test will have a hard time remaining viable.

Not many students are going to want to pay for degrees that they can not get loans for. Some students? Yes. Enough to keep a degree program going?

We shall see.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61832 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:46 am to
So wait, we’re actually going to care about human beings and their futures again?

Crazy talk, almost as if we want America to succeed.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12268 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:48 am to
Let’s see the criteria with how this is calculated. How many majors
will still be considered viable positive financial outcomes?

Will be interesting to see the criteria, with AI now destroying so many entry level jobs.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41521 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:52 am to
100% approve along with a course all freshmen must attend that explains what you can expect to earn once leaving college and how much debt you will have upon leaving.

They could drop half the BS courses they force you to take and add a budgeting financial course along with the Degree Expectations course.

It would be better if this was taught senior year of high school but that will never happen.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102616 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:52 am to
Goodbye HCBUs
Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
10323 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:53 am to
I'm fine with this as long as they apply it to the for-profit colleges and universities.

Unfortunately, the department of education has a bad history of carving out for-profit exemptions due to political kickbacks. And their entire business model would collapse without federal loans.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138723 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

There are only so many characters allowed in the title..
Student loans cut for college programs that do not deliver positive financial outcomes
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
8244 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:09 pm to
done.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
10204 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:23 pm to
We also have way too many degree programs and way too many people that have no business being on a campus. Make trade schools a thing again.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55399 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 2:10 pm to
It isn't option number two in your post. That would be unconstitutional and would be struck down by the Supreme Court.
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