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St. George ruling expected tomorrow - predictions?

Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:01 am
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
Member since Jun 2011
1084 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:01 am
I understand that the Louisiana Supreme Court will be issuing its ruling on the St. George case tomorrow - what's the expected outcome? And if they overturn the lower courts, what has to happen next before St. George can incorporate?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94915 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:05 am to
My expectation is that it will be a long and overly complicated decision because of how badly the district court and appeals court fricked up.

One court basically said that the entire election was invalid because putting a URL on the petition to the plan of government isn’t putting the plan of government on the petition.


I believe another argued that the impact on BR by StG incorporating means that it should be blocked.



State SC has to figure out a way to unfrick this mess in the easiest way possible.

My guess is that they say that the petition was valid, therefore the vote is valid, but drop Lamont Cole from the case due to lack of standing, therefore StG incorporates due to the case dissolving.


That gets to the correct verdict without litigating a lot of major issues caused by how this was handled, which probably needs to be fricked up by the legislature and not the courts.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
34949 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:12 am to
What should happen

St. George STACKEDDDD

Baddun rudge frickKKKKEDDDDDD


what inevitably will happen,

Baddun rudgeeee STACKEDDDD

St. George frickKKEDDDDD


Which will lead directly to Baddun rudgeeeeeee getting double dick fricked when the little remaining tax base says adios
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
2005 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:28 am to
St. George wins.
Posted by tharre4
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
571 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:29 am to
quote:


I understand that the Louisiana Supreme Court will be issuing its ruling on the St. George case tomorrow


How does LASC release these rulings? Media wise?
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6529 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:39 am to
This has been ongoing for more than 6 years. The Citizens voted for it in a Legal election.

The mayorette is trying to nullify a legal election.

This is election interference and what about ‘ Democracy’ ?
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
Member since Jun 2011
1084 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:42 am to
quote:

How does LASC release these rulings? Media wise?


They are posted online here:

LASC Court Actions
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
36206 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:45 am to
quote:

St. George STACKEDDDD

Baddun rudge frickKKKKEDDDDDD


But they’re the same thing. So stacked and fricked at the same time.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164082 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:47 am to
Was it just a Mandella Effect thing but I could have sworn St George was already ruled in favor of and people were celebrating here a while back. Must have been when the LA Supreme Court took the case. The people voted 5 years ago and our government has been trying to throw that vote in the trash and ever since.

But Trump is going to destroy democracy.
This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 9:51 am
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
141061 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:50 am to
quote:

How does LASC release these rulings? Media wise?

Link to SCOLA website to read opinion directly once it's published
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23024 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:53 am to
quote:


One court basically said that the entire election was invalid because putting a URL on the petition to the plan of government isn’t putting the plan of government on the petition.


I believe another argued that the impact on BR by StG incorporating means that it should be blocked.


Just going off my memory, but I think a big part of the problem was St. George didn't include specifics on how they were going to fund the government in their original Petition so the Petition itself was declared invalid.
Posted by PoBoy1
Member since Mar 2014
373 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:57 am to
LASC website shows March 22, 2024 as tentative opinion date (for 2023-2024 session).
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94915 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 9:59 am to
Problem is that the petition got enough signatures, got approved by the state, signed off by the governor, and then won their election.

Kinda fricking late to toss it 4+ years after the election when that wasn’t even an argument in the suit IIRC.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35923 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:06 am to
quote:

Problem is that the petition got enough signatures, got approved by the state, signed off by the governor, and then won their election.
Kinda fricking late to toss it 4+ years after the election when that wasn’t even an argument in the suit IIRC.


The issues was openly debated by parish leaders. Voters were informed west mire than they are when we vote for amendments and tax renewals.

The Governor, and the SOS all approved the petition and a legal election was held.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23024 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:21 am to
quote:

Problem is that the petition got enough signatures, got approved by the state, signed off by the governor, and then won their election.

Kinda fricking late to toss it 4+ years after the election when that wasn’t even an argument in the suit IIRC.


Oh I'm with you. I get the intent behind the law so that new political subdivisions can't overpromise with no intent on delivering on those promises, but this wasn't even part of the original appeal.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14485 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:28 am to
quote:

St. George wins.


This. I'm pretty sure five justices will find a way.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98544 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:33 am to
frickery
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6746 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:34 am to
Listening to the arguments presented to the LSC, I heard a lot of questions from the justices that were never asked by the lower courts, but were issues that were screamed in the loudest voices by those who saw through the BS being thrown up by the opposition to SG and the C-P. The majority of justices seem to agree that the C-P tried to cancel the results of a legitimate election and overrule the will of the people. I predict that SG will be allowed to incorporate (but stranger things have happened - It is Louisiana politics after all)
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6746 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:34 am to
Duplicate post - deleted
This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 10:36 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37034 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 11:00 am to
quote:

One court basically said that the entire election was invalid because putting a URL on the petition to the plan of government isn’t putting the plan of government on the petition.


I think this is where they land. Toss the case and let the legislature fix the requirements for the plan of government to be on the petition.

You may say, well, that wasn't part of the lawsuit until the appeals court added it.

That is correct.

However, we have a US Supreme Court that decided that Obamacare individual and business responsibility provision were a tax, not a penalty, and that was nowhere in any of the arguments either.
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