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re: Squatters need to be shot dead on sight. It might be hateful, mean, ignorant, i dont care

Posted on 5/9/25 at 7:49 am to
Posted by BhamTigah
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 7:49 am to
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When I moved to Maryland

Found the problem


Nah, where I lived in Maryland was great…conservative, nice folks…mostly watermen and farmers.

Everything east of the bay is like that, but they don’t have the population to have any control.
This post was edited on 5/9/25 at 7:50 am
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89018 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 7:52 am to
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You don't kill people for this.The anger is justified but killing someone for squatting is not.


You’re right.

However…if I come home and find someone in my house, I can reasonably be expected to be in imminent fear for my life and safety. In which case, they’re getting popped.
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3585 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 7:53 am to
A quick search will yield hundreds of these stories. Luckily it’s not really a thing in Louisiana
Posted by Septiger
Member since Nov 2020
3492 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 7:53 am to
Who the frick came up with this squatter bullshite ?
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
21137 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 7:54 am to
If they are in my house uninvited, my state has castle laws.
Posted by Indiangensing
Member since Nov 2017
2360 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 7:59 am to
Same with Iowa. You allow this behavior to happen and it will.

It's no surprise liberal cesspools like California, Illinois and New York are where this is happening. Like another poster said if you try and takeover my home... the coroner's officer will be getting called before the Police department.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
25539 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 7:59 am to
quote:

quote:

You don't kill people for this.The anger is justified but killing someone for squatting is not.

You’re right.

However…if I come home and find someone in my house, I can reasonably be expected to be in imminent fear for my life and safety. In which case, they’re getting popped.
so what do you mean he’s right? He’s dead wrong, as is the squatter

Just glad to live somewhere I have the right to kill squatters. A stranger shows up and hides in my house he’s a threat; he threatens to steal my house he’s a fricking dead meat extreme threat. On my property threatening me, yeah I have the right to kill them.
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
9137 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:04 am to
Practically every state has nice red areas, but when the blue is in control at the state level, it becomes an undesirable location (for my liking, of course). Glad you’re happy there; there are pros and cons of living most everywhere.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89018 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:05 am to
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A stranger shows up and hides in my house he’s a threat;


That’s exactly what I said.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17198 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:07 am to
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You don't kill people for this.The anger is justified but killing someone for squatting is not.


bullshite. First of all, you are correct that killing should not NEED to be a solution to this problem and easily wouldn't if the state would intervene as they should to be the legitimate authority and enforcer of property rights.

A home is literally the most significant investment most Americans have, dedicating decades of their earnings to pay for and it is also the fundamental basis for security to a family. From the elements as well as from others. Are you suggesting that Americans can be reasonably deprived of their homes by criminal exploiters with no means to use force to expel them? If the state attempted force to compel someone to do anything, and that person refused or resisted, what would the state do?

The state's lack of clear and decisive action on this matter NECESSARILY and REASONABLY compels citizens to either act on their own or submit entirely to having their life's savings and their families most basic human necessities and security deprived for no other reason than a criminal theft.

If a squatter refuses to leave your home, and the state refuses to compel them, homeowners are well within their moral rights to use force to compel them to leave and the state's absence of clarity on this matter, just like on any other criminal situation, only encourages and enables criminals and general disorder.
This post was edited on 5/9/25 at 8:15 am
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8419 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:07 am to
In Florida sheriff Grady Judd has already said that it is OK to shoot these people without consequence
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
21137 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:11 am to
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You don't kill people for this


Justify this statement. I really want to here your reasoning on this. Someone breaks into your home and essentially steals everything including the home. And refuse to leave.
Posted by BhamTigah
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:11 am to
Squatters rights have been around a long time and were originally put in place because land ownership documents weren’t what they are today. They were also granted to encourage the use of land. If a landowner had thousands of acres sitting dormant, that was frowned upon, so if someone else used the land, it was known as adverse possession and they were given rights to continue using it.

Why squatters rights continue today is strange. To answer the questions about people coming home from vacation and finding people in their home, those aren’t squatters. In most (maybe all) states, there is a required time period of known adverse possession as the only possessor before squatters rights are granted.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49520 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:12 am to
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When people are willing to commit fraud, lots of possibilities open up to exploit people/systems.

That comment isn't exclusive to squatting.

Well I limited my comment to squatting -

I understand the 'due process' situation when dealing with property only - something that is not vital to your existence, something you own but look at only occasionally.

If I leave my wallet on an outdoor restaurant table and come back a day or so later looking for it, it am not going to get upset with anyone but myself for being careless.

But if I leave my home, locked and secure, for a week to take a vacation, and come back to see someone else living there, I do not expect to have much problem getting their asses out of there - and it should not even be a question.

And if in the original exposure to the situation, there is some sort of physical interaction between me and the occupant, I do not expect have much problem in defending my actions - rather, the onus should be on the squatter to prove his actions were reasonable.

IF the interaction escalates to the point "one of us" ends up dead - I would not expect having to stand trial for it.
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
10541 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:13 am to
SFP - Supreme Court critic and defender of squatters' rights nationwide...

'Call me Mississippi' - SFP
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476599 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:14 am to
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IF the interaction escalates to the point "one of us" ends up dead - I would not expect having to stand trial for it.

I can't speak for all jurisdictions but people HAVE been prosecuted for "taking the law into their own hands" against squatters

Georgia homeowner arrested after trying to move back into her house inhabited by squatter: ‘Inherently wrong’

quote:

A Georgia woman was arrested and charged with criminal trespassing after she tried to move into her own home — but was rebuffed by an alleged squatter.

“I spent the night on a mat on a concrete floor in deplorable conditions while this woman, this squatter, slept in my home,” said Loletha Hale, who was arrested outside her mother’s old home in Livingston on Dec. 9.

Posted by BlueFalcon
Aberdeen Scotland
Member since Dec 2011
3680 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:14 am to
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You don't kill people for this.The anger is justified but killing someone for squatting is not.


If I'm on the Jury I'm voting not guilty, I don't care if the squatter agreed to leave or was even fleeing
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28526 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:19 am to
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From that point its a civil matter not criminal so it has to go to court, which could take months.



I think the big question is who is inside the house at the time of the initial police visit and report. You've got to get them out of the house, trick them if necessary, take physical possession and call the police while they're trying to get back in. It all comes down to that initial police report. And almost every city has retired police doing PI work. Having a well-connected, possibly shady, former cop with you can make a big difference on how that first police encounter goes. So don't call police until you've got the whole thing set up and choreographed.
Posted by BhamTigah
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:20 am to
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Practically every state has nice red areas, but when the blue is in control at the state level, it becomes an undesirable location (for my liking, of course). Glad you’re happy there; there are pros and cons of living most everywhere.


Yeah, I moved from one blue state to another...Maryland to Georgia.

At least in Maryland, I was in the good area. Far too close to Atlanta now.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:27 am to
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I think the big question is who is inside the house at the time of the initial police visit and report. You've got to get them out of the house, trick them if necessary, take physical possession and call the police while they're trying to get back in. It all comes down to that initial police report. And almost every city has retired police doing PI work. Having a well-connected, possibly shady, former cop with you can make a big difference on how that first police encounter goes. So don't call police until you've got the whole thing set up and choreographed.
that's the only way to beat these guys.

Out squat the squatter. Hire somebody to break in, change the locks (possession), and when the squatters call the cops on your guy just have him present the cops with a fake lease.

It's like robbing a drug dealer. There's likely some dire consequences, but cops ain't one of them. That's why you hire some schmo.
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