re: Soooooo.......which one works..?

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If masks work, why do I need a vaccine, and if vaccines work, why do I need a mask? Anyone else curious about this?

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Finally. After seeing 50 threads like this I was like ... it's just not enough!

Thank you

I bet if they just shut down everything and make us all stay home for a month or two, this'll all go away.

Oh wait.

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Oh I totally agree with you

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This is why I have no interest in masks again.

It's also why I think, anecdotally speaking that is, places that had strict mask mandates and those with lax ones were virtually identical in case numbers. They only had so-so efficiency and they were hardly ever worn correctly, so despite inconveniencing people and especially children, they had no real impact at all.

If there were hard numbers which showed some huge differences between states that kept mask mandates in place and those that did not, then we could talk.

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Yes. They help. A seatbelt isn't going to save my life 100% of the time, but I still wear one.

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I can quite easily find very clear easy to understand scientific studies on the life saving efficacy of seat belts.

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They help. A seatbelt isn't going to save my life 100% of the time, but I still wear one.

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C'mon...that's a terrible analogy. We have decades worth of research that show us that seatbelts save lives and can show side by side results of not wearing them. We have nothing like this in regards to masks, and especially the kinds of masks most people are half arse wearing.

When it comes to masks, we're basically just assuming that they do "something" and "something" is better than nothing. Plus, seeing people wear masks makes others "feel" safer, so there's also that.

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C'mon...that's a terrible analogy. We have decades worth of research that show us that seatbelts save lives and can show side by side results of not wearing them. We have nothing like this in regards to masks, and especially the kinds of masks most people are half arse wearing.

When it comes to masks, we're basically just assuming that they do "something" and "something" is better than nothing. Plus, seeing people wear masks makes others "feel" safer, so there's also that.

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I only used that comparison to make the point that something is better than nothing since the OP seems to act like its all or nothing.

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Researchers tested how well different masks and modifications filter out airborne salt particles, which are the same size as the smallest SARS-CoV-2 particles, but are not harmful. Members of the research team wore the face coverings to do the testing themselves.

While N95 respirator type masks are the most effective at filtering viral particles, the CDC recommends reserving these masks for healthcare workers. The table below compares the fitted filtration efficiency (FFE)—how well a material filters out particles—for common types of masks recommended for the public.

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It seems like those sorts of efficacy numbers would be more clearly evident in real world infection data.

Nor touching a door knob then touching the mask all day long.

Masks are pretty stupid in the manner they are used.

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Neither work 100%.

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What % do the masks work at?

And don't show me N95 masks being used a single instance by a medical professional who knows how to don/wear it.

I want to see the homemade mask that grandma made that's stored in a purse, only washed once a month, is constantly readjusted, and doesn't seal properly.

My unsolicited thought on this.

Since the air you exhale contains virus, and a mask restricts air flow, at most, it keeps the viral particles in a closer proximity to the exhaler, initially. Particularly the virus contained in droplets. That’s about it. Unless it’s N95 or whatever.

I’d suggest theres minimal value in masks.