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re: Social Security and Medicare need to be eliminated

Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:40 pm to
Posted by TigeeDaleC
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2014
191 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:40 pm to
Well, remember that the Boomers were forced under penalty of imprisonment to take from their earnings and pay into this system so it’s really not their fault. If the Boomers had instead put that money into 401ks or IRAs they would have made a lot more than the crappy SS payout. So we were all robbed by this horrible program.

Having said that SS does need to be phased out in a way that is fair to those whose earnings were pilfered and those who would otherwise be stuck paying into this for decades
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15652 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:44 pm to
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Fine, eliminate it, but there better be a pay out for what I have put in


And what my employer put in it for me
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15652 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:46 pm to
We paid for those.

Tell me that you are a jealous little punk without telling me. Did you work for $2 an hr and grateful to just have a job. If you bought a home in the late 70s and early 80s and paid 18% interest on a home.

What a moron you are little bitch
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138723 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:50 pm to
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Having said that SS does need to be phased out
That would be glorious.
Won't happen. But it would be great!
Posted by SNAP
Member since Nov 2025
245 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 3:02 pm to
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lake chuck fan

Sorry to hear that about your mother.
Condolences.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22695 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 3:12 pm to
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I am tired of these boomers

Your problem isn't with boomers. Your problem is with your teachers and anybody else you want to hold accountable for being retarded.

The WSJ piece leading fact is:

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As of the third quarter of last year, people 70 and over controlled roughly 39% of all equities and mutual funds owned by households, compared with 22% in 2007, according to Federal Reserve data. Their share of net worth—assets minus debts—was 32%, up from 20% two decades earlier.


This is laid out to support the argument that older people are more and more rich, which implies others are less and less so. Now comes the "you are retarded" part, and it relates to your inability to think critically.

When I read that argument, my first thought was, "okay, but how many more 70+ year olds are there in 2025 versus 2007, given the boomer cohort and how it's passing through the country's demographic profile?"

Turns out that in 2007, there were about 16.5 million Americans 70+. In 2025, that number is about 35 million. As a percentage of the American population, 70+ has about doubled.

So why is it a surprise that the (net) wealth held by 70+ has gone from 22% to 34%? In fact, don't those numbers suggest that the "new" 70+ year olds are less wealthy (relative to others) than the 70+ year olds twenty years ago?

These "boomers are bad" threads serve as a reminder of how economically illiterate (and soft) all those whining about them are. It's actually pretty sad.
Posted by Sid E Walker
BackdoorU ©
Member since Nov 2013
25625 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 3:18 pm to
OP can just STFU. I started drawing my SS in December. It’s not a lot but I’ve earned every damn penny of it.

And oh, btw, I’m still working and contributing to it.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6574 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 3:32 pm to
Two things can be true at once. People who paid their whole lives into SS don’t deserve to then get ripped off by getting nothing, which is precisely what is going to happen to younger people if nothing is done about SS. People deserve what they rightfully contributed to but SS and healthcare are absolutely bankrupting the country at the same time.
This post was edited on 2/21/26 at 7:22 am
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
31363 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 3:34 pm to
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And what my employer put in it for me


That's not your money. It's your employer's money.

To the down voters, your employer is forced to contribute just like you are. You are not entitled to it.
This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 4:20 pm
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23005 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 3:34 pm to
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how are retired people supposed to afford medical care?


Have you tried cutting back on the avocado toast?


Now that's was a good one
Posted by Sid E Walker
BackdoorU ©
Member since Nov 2013
25625 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 3:57 pm to
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People deserve what they rightfully contributed to but SS and healthcare is absolutely bankrupting the country at the same time.

Thanks to the ACA.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13392 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:02 pm to
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Because almost 3% of every paycheck throughout a worker's career aggregate to pay for Part A (Hospital Insurance). Those who didn't contribute, pay up to $505/month. Meanwhile, for Part B (Medical Insurance), monthly premiums run $185-$625.

Medicaid recipients don't pay those premiums.


Yeah, I addressed that.

Medicare is pretty much universal, Medicaid is not. Therefore, a special specific tax pays for Medicare and not Medicaid.

So what?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28012 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:10 pm to
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That’s a small share of the pie. Programs like SNAP and WIC are pennies compared to Medicare and Social Security


Good, so it should be easy to cut those pennies first.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138723 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:33 pm to
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Yeah, I addressed that.
No. You didn’t actually.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38336 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:37 pm to
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Because almost 3% of every paycheck throughout a worker's career aggregate to pay for Part A (Hospital Insurance). Those who didn't contribute, pay up to $505/month. Meanwhile, for Part B (Medical Insurance), monthly premiums run $185-$625.

Medicaid recipients don't pay those premiums.
Why do people on here find that so difficult to understand?
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
10575 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:39 pm to
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That's not your money. It's your employer's money.


and if the government did not suck it up by force where would it go?
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38656 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:43 pm to
Boomers have put an enormous amount of economic pressure on later generations. Someone has to sacrifice and it should be the Boomers, younger generations have paid a lot to support them. Will they step up to the plate?

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Fine, eliminate it, but there better be a pay out for what I have put in


Nope.


Any other solution, even ending it, which I would support, will just cause younger generations further economic strain.

But yeah, we should probably shoulder the burden and be done with Boomer influence for good. It's the right thing to do - which typically escapes Boomers.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
31363 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:45 pm to
It would stay in the employers bank acoount.

The 6.2% the employer paid in to FICA didn't come out of your check.
This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 4:57 pm
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22914 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:47 pm to
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Remember, you boomers had everything handed to you and you pissed it all away


The single most unforgivable thing a boomer has done is hatched and raised your stupid privilidged arse...
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55712 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:49 pm to
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Boomers have put an enormous amount of economic pressure on later generations. Someone has to sacrifice and it should be the Boomers, younger generations have paid a lot to support them. Will they step up to the plate?




Pure poppycock.

If the federal government would cut the wife and myself a check for $1.5 million that should cover all the taxes we and our employers have paid into SS and Medicare over the past 45 years. The $1.5 million includes an annual return of 4-5%.
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