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re: so media is saying the video disproves Ahmad was a burglar

Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:09 pm to
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:09 pm to
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Where is the stolen stuff? Why was no mention of it made in the police documentation?


What these guys did was wrong, but its coming out they had run ins with the family previously.

And Ahmad has been caught stealing.

Again, that does not mean you go vigilante and murder someone.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:09 pm to
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manzielathon was saying the dude was in cargo shorts with a hammer far from where he lived across the interstate



Why are you believing him? There was no hammer mentioned in any of the official documentation. The road he was on, Satilla, turns into Fancy Bluff Rd, where we do have corroboration for his jogging.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:09 pm to
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Would it matter?


if it didnt why would the media push the false narrative????
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:10 pm to
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manzielathon was saying the dude was in cargo shorts with a hammer far from where he lived across the interstate
Out of curiosity, how "far from home" was he?

I mean, in my running days, it would have been common for me to be on a street "far from my house". But, "far" is not exactly descriptive. I'd like to see the definition of "Far" in this case.
Posted by the808bass
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:10 pm to
Oh they called the cops. They just wanted to arrest him, too. They do not appear to be Mensa candidates from any early evidence.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:10 pm to
It's pretty similar to the media's portrayal of St. Alton. There's really no need to dig into his background to show how good or bad a person he was prior to the incident. It doesn't change anything about what happened and how it should be dealt with.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:10 pm to
would you cross an interstate?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

What these guys did was wrong, but its coming out they had run ins with the family previously.

And Ahmad has been caught stealing.

Again, that does not mean you go vigilante and murder someone.


But the fact that no goods have been found or even referenced undermines the idea that they could perform a citizens arrest.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:11 pm to
We still harping in this shite? Let it play out in the courts.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:12 pm to
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Well, I’ll add that no burglary was reported that day.


Which is of course, useful info.

But, if he was in the process of theft when spotted and therefore ran, then, why would a burglary be reported?

Look. Again, I'm merely throwing out the fact that there's shite we don't know and that at this point, we can't know.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78350 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:12 pm to
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The father knew him beforehand, probably some personal beef, which people kill each other over daily, only a national story when the races line up.


Two good ole boys with police/DA connections shoot am unarmed black guy and don't get charged or arrested? Yeah thats gonna make the news most of the time.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83769 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:12 pm to
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Also why did he initiate the fight?


From the video I've seen, he runs around the truck and the guy is standing there with the shotgun... If that was me, I'd leap too.


I'd like to think if he was running in fear of his life because he stole something, he'd be cutting through yards to get away. Whereas if a truck flies by you and stops in the road, your naturally going to run around it
Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:13 pm to
At least spell the man's name correct for frick's sake.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86389 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:13 pm to
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But the fact that no goods have been found or even referenced undermines the idea that they could perform a citizens arrest.


I stated in another thread. This just tells me it wasnt....We see a black guy jogging, lets murder him. They had beef and murdered him.

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170790 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:14 pm to
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Video is like 15 seconds and apparently, you can learn the entire life history of both deceased and white dudes all in that frame!!!

You don't need the entire life history

Dude could have robbed a gas station at gunpoint the day before and it really doesn't absolve these morons of what they did
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:14 pm to
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would you cross an interstate?


Not being familiar with the neighborhoods in question, and knowing that the media is prone to describe things in, shall we say, a haphazard fashion

My answer is...……..probably not...……………..BUT, for example. I have run on roads that passed under an interstate which would, by definition, place me in neighborhoods "across the interstate" from me.

So, I'd like to have better specifics than the media have given me thus far.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30546 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

would you cross an interstate?


Would you be running across an interstate from your home in order to burglarize some homes in that neighborhood?

Where was his car?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:16 pm to
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would you cross an interstate?



He didn't cross an interstate, I don't think.


He seemingly crossed a causeway. Fancy Bluff Rd. is where he reportedly jogged regularly. LINK

quote:

One of them was Lauren Bennett, 26, who says running was what Arbery was known for around their Fancy Bluff neighborhood in Brunswick. Her security camera would ping into her phone as he raced by each day.

“Yup, there goes Ahmaud,” she told the Guardian, recalling his bouts of exercise. She’d heard he used to wave to another neighbor on his daily runs.


There is an interstate to the west, but it is 1 mile or so away.
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 12:18 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58530 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:16 pm to
Tbh if you’re a convicted felon and you aren’t doing something cool like riding in the Angola rodeo or slinging chain in the oil field it shouldn’t be “murder” to kill you per se

Unless you’re like Martin shrekli, he’s cool
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18925 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 12:16 pm to
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if it didnt why would the media push the false narrative????


Media gonna media, all we can really do is analyze the video, the police report, and the 911 call
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