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re: SL Cancellations: 20k for Pell Grant Recipients, 10k for others up to 125k in income

Posted on 8/24/22 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5049 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 1:45 pm to
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Forgiveness for a grant? So...a $20k cash payment? Not buying votes at all.


Fairly sure they are forgiving LOANS taken by people who also had Pell grants. They can’t “forgive” a grant.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
25975 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

was wrong. 250k household limit for married filing jointly


So then if both spouses make a combined income of less than $250k, that's $20k forgiveness of both have outstanding loans? I don't get this.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44723 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:08 pm to
A lot of colleges won’t be accepting poor people or those wanting to major in art studies because they won’t get their money back.

“The rule would:

Require borrowers to pay no more than 5% of their discretionary income monthly on undergraduate loans. This is down from the 10% available under the most recent income-driven repayment plan.

Raise the amount of income that is considered non-discretionary income and therefore is protected from repayment, guaranteeing that no borrower earning under 225% of the federal poverty level—about the annual equivalent of a $15 minimum wage for a single borrower—will have to make a monthly payment.

Forgive loan balances after 10 years of payments, instead of 20 years, for borrowers with loan balances of $12,000 or less.

Cover the borrower's unpaid monthly interest, so that unlike other existing income-driven repayment plans, no borrower's loan balance will grow as long as they make their monthly payments—even when that monthly payment is $0 because their income is low.”
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 3:16 pm
Posted by BlackPanther
Member since Aug 2022
22 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:17 pm to
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Total bullshite and buying off of the voters.

this was 2 weeks before the election

This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 3:48 pm
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:36 pm to
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A lot of colleges won’t be accepting poor people or those wanting to major in art studies because they won’t get their money back.

“The rule would:

Require borrowers to pay no more than 5% of their discretionary income monthly on undergraduate loans. This is down from the 10% available under the most recent income-driven repayment plan.

Raise the amount of income that is considered non-discretionary income and therefore is protected from repayment, guaranteeing that no borrower earning under 225% of the federal poverty level—about the annual equivalent of a $15 minimum wage for a single borrower—will have to make a monthly payment.

Forgive loan balances after 10 years of payments, instead of 20 years, for borrowers with loan balances of $12,000 or less.

Cover the borrower's unpaid monthly interest, so that unlike other existing income-driven repayment plans, no borrower's loan balance will grow as long as they make their monthly payments—even when that monthly payment is $0 because their income is low.”




Student loan payments don't go to the college, they already got paid.

That's a big part of the problem - the colleges and universities have no skin in the game. They admit students that may be barely capable of college level work, charge whatever tuition they want, student gets government backed loans, pays tuition, may or may not go to class, may or may not graduate, may or may not ever get a job and pay a single loan payment. College doesn't care, they got paid years ago and moved on to the next student.
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:41 pm to
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This is truly uncharted territory: brave new paths are being forged by America's Economist-In-Chief.

Before recoiling in alarm at the new student debt relief package, look at the upside to the American economy: 20 K not being payed to satisfy a loan encumbrance can now be 20 K invested as a down payment on a home, a drone, new electronic equipment, a new electric vehicle, or whatever.



Do we all get to move in, fly the drone, drive the electric vehicle, etc? Since we're all paying for it...
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85531 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:06 pm to
The majority of pell grants went to university of pheonix and other for profit colleges.


what a fricking scam
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4603 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

So...a $20k cash payment?


That's not helping Bernice with 4 nose rings, 55 tattoos, and over $100K debt on her Masters in Liberal Arts degree and unable to buy a house while working 3 days a week at Starbucks.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24832 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:49 pm to
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Not as a percentage


I did not say percentage, using percentage is a red herring argument.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
20684 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:05 pm to
I’m torn on this. Because I have pell grants and makes less than 125 a year I’m eligible. At the same time I’ve always been very independent and don’t ask others to support me. Am I an idiot if I choose not to take part in the debt forgiveness or a hypocrite if I do take part?
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38841 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 11:37 pm to
If you're going to cancel 10k how does it make any sense not to start repayments now? Is there any doubt these payments will never be restarted and they'll keep throwing 10k at us?

What a scam
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38841 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 11:40 pm to
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I’m torn on this. Because I have pell grants and makes less than 125 a year I’m eligible. At the same time I’ve always been very independent and don’t ask others to support me. Am I an idiot if I choose not to take part in the debt forgiveness or a hypocrite if I do take part?


100% you are an idiot if you don't take it and not even sure if its possible to turn it down.

I have 17k left to pay and think its a terrible idea to forgive any of it but never turn down free money from the government. It doesn't do anyone a bit of good
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 11:41 pm
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
28303 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 11:56 pm to
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free money from the government


No such thing
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
28303 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 11:57 pm to
What about me I paid back my wife's student loans and at the time struggled to do so. I want a re-imbursement
Posted by ShinerHorns
El Paso
Member since Jul 2021
5617 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 12:01 am to
This might be the worst thing Brandon has done yet. This guy is completely unhinged.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62493 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 12:28 am to
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I want a re-imbursement
Get back to work. Others are depending on you to pay off their loans too. Sucker.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4603 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 8:40 am to
Yep, you take the $10K even though it's bullshite.

Because when inflation goes higher from the Inflation Increase Act plus this $300 Billion, you are going to pay it back via that.
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