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re: SL Cancellations: 20k for Pell Grant Recipients, 10k for others up to 125k in income
Posted on 8/24/22 at 1:45 pm to udtiger
Posted on 8/24/22 at 1:45 pm to udtiger
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Forgiveness for a grant? So...a $20k cash payment? Not buying votes at all.
Fairly sure they are forgiving LOANS taken by people who also had Pell grants. They can’t “forgive” a grant.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 1:47 pm to Vandergriff
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was wrong. 250k household limit for married filing jointly
So then if both spouses make a combined income of less than $250k, that's $20k forgiveness of both have outstanding loans? I don't get this.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:08 pm to RebelWithACause
A lot of colleges won’t be accepting poor people or those wanting to major in art studies because they won’t get their money back.
“The rule would:
Require borrowers to pay no more than 5% of their discretionary income monthly on undergraduate loans. This is down from the 10% available under the most recent income-driven repayment plan.
Raise the amount of income that is considered non-discretionary income and therefore is protected from repayment, guaranteeing that no borrower earning under 225% of the federal poverty level—about the annual equivalent of a $15 minimum wage for a single borrower—will have to make a monthly payment.
Forgive loan balances after 10 years of payments, instead of 20 years, for borrowers with loan balances of $12,000 or less.
Cover the borrower's unpaid monthly interest, so that unlike other existing income-driven repayment plans, no borrower's loan balance will grow as long as they make their monthly payments—even when that monthly payment is $0 because their income is low.”
“The rule would:
Require borrowers to pay no more than 5% of their discretionary income monthly on undergraduate loans. This is down from the 10% available under the most recent income-driven repayment plan.
Raise the amount of income that is considered non-discretionary income and therefore is protected from repayment, guaranteeing that no borrower earning under 225% of the federal poverty level—about the annual equivalent of a $15 minimum wage for a single borrower—will have to make a monthly payment.
Forgive loan balances after 10 years of payments, instead of 20 years, for borrowers with loan balances of $12,000 or less.
Cover the borrower's unpaid monthly interest, so that unlike other existing income-driven repayment plans, no borrower's loan balance will grow as long as they make their monthly payments—even when that monthly payment is $0 because their income is low.”
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:17 pm to Figgy
quote:this was 2 weeks before the election
Total bullshite and buying off of the voters.

This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:36 pm to tigerskin
quote:
A lot of colleges won’t be accepting poor people or those wanting to major in art studies because they won’t get their money back.
“The rule would:
Require borrowers to pay no more than 5% of their discretionary income monthly on undergraduate loans. This is down from the 10% available under the most recent income-driven repayment plan.
Raise the amount of income that is considered non-discretionary income and therefore is protected from repayment, guaranteeing that no borrower earning under 225% of the federal poverty level—about the annual equivalent of a $15 minimum wage for a single borrower—will have to make a monthly payment.
Forgive loan balances after 10 years of payments, instead of 20 years, for borrowers with loan balances of $12,000 or less.
Cover the borrower's unpaid monthly interest, so that unlike other existing income-driven repayment plans, no borrower's loan balance will grow as long as they make their monthly payments—even when that monthly payment is $0 because their income is low.”
Student loan payments don't go to the college, they already got paid.
That's a big part of the problem - the colleges and universities have no skin in the game. They admit students that may be barely capable of college level work, charge whatever tuition they want, student gets government backed loans, pays tuition, may or may not go to class, may or may not graduate, may or may not ever get a job and pay a single loan payment. College doesn't care, they got paid years ago and moved on to the next student.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 3:41 pm to tarzana
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This is truly uncharted territory: brave new paths are being forged by America's Economist-In-Chief.
Before recoiling in alarm at the new student debt relief package, look at the upside to the American economy: 20 K not being payed to satisfy a loan encumbrance can now be 20 K invested as a down payment on a home, a drone, new electronic equipment, a new electric vehicle, or whatever.
Do we all get to move in, fly the drone, drive the electric vehicle, etc? Since we're all paying for it...
Posted on 8/24/22 at 4:06 pm to joshnorris14
The majority of pell grants went to university of pheonix and other for profit colleges.
what a fricking scam
what a fricking scam
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:40 pm to udtiger
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So...a $20k cash payment?
That's not helping Bernice with 4 nose rings, 55 tattoos, and over $100K debt on her Masters in Liberal Arts degree and unable to buy a house while working 3 days a week at Starbucks.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:49 pm to upgrayedd
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Not as a percentage
I did not say percentage, using percentage is a red herring argument.
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:05 pm to joshnorris14
I’m torn on this. Because I have pell grants and makes less than 125 a year I’m eligible. At the same time I’ve always been very independent and don’t ask others to support me. Am I an idiot if I choose not to take part in the debt forgiveness or a hypocrite if I do take part?
Posted on 8/24/22 at 11:37 pm to joshnorris14
If you're going to cancel 10k how does it make any sense not to start repayments now? Is there any doubt these payments will never be restarted and they'll keep throwing 10k at us?
What a scam
What a scam
Posted on 8/24/22 at 11:40 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
quote:100% you are an idiot if you don't take it and not even sure if its possible to turn it down.
I’m torn on this. Because I have pell grants and makes less than 125 a year I’m eligible. At the same time I’ve always been very independent and don’t ask others to support me. Am I an idiot if I choose not to take part in the debt forgiveness or a hypocrite if I do take part?
I have 17k left to pay and think its a terrible idea to forgive any of it but never turn down free money from the government. It doesn't do anyone a bit of good
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 8/24/22 at 11:56 pm to Pelican fan99
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free money from the government
No such thing
Posted on 8/24/22 at 11:57 pm to Pelican fan99
What about me I paid back my wife's student loans and at the time struggled to do so. I want a re-imbursement
Posted on 8/25/22 at 12:01 am to joshnorris14
This might be the worst thing Brandon has done yet. This guy is completely unhinged.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 12:28 am to burke985
quote:Get back to work. Others are depending on you to pay off their loans too. Sucker.
I want a re-imbursement
Posted on 8/25/22 at 8:40 am to Pelican fan99
Yep, you take the $10K even though it's bullshite.
Because when inflation goes higher from the Inflation Increase Act plus this $300 Billion, you are going to pay it back via that.
Because when inflation goes higher from the Inflation Increase Act plus this $300 Billion, you are going to pay it back via that.
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