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re: Setting any opinions aside about Trump, I still find it truly amazing this got 81 million

Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:47 am to
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
20049 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:47 am to
The MSM News screen lickers pretend to believe it.

Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
67023 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:48 am to
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It is almost unfathomable. 81 million Americans were on board with this?


If we assume 255,457,000 people are voting aged Biden got less than a third of the country’s support. We're a lazy, complacent, stat blinded populace
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46676 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:49 am to
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quote: You're not alone, I've seen several others in this thread who believe the MSM, Corporations, academia, Hollywood/pop culture influencers, etc. should be the ones deciding who the president will be.

Really? Who?



Here's the Shrubbers post

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Yes. Has it taken three years for reality to set in?


Shrubber believes the 2020 GE was a referendum on Trump. If Shrubber means the 2020 GE was a concerted effort by the Anti Trump Consortium (the MSM, academia, Big Tech, DC Uniparty, Bureaucratic State, Hollywood/pop culture influencers, etc.) to install Jotato into the presidency then I wholeheartedly agree.

I believe Trump is president today if those institutions were not infested with cultural Marxists and Globalists. Most Americans do not follow politics to any serious degree so their political opinions come from Colbert, Kimmel, Rachel Sadcow, The View, the Gaslight Media, and the undeniable leftist news apps on their phones. If the MSM and Big Tech were just slightly left leaning Jotato is not in the White House, but they're not slightly left leaning, they're unashamedly hard left Globalists with a distinct Marxist stench.

Do you honestly believe Biden is president today without the support of every major US institution, institutions that are decidedly left leaning and very supportive of Globalism?
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 11:53 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425823 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:49 am to
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Knowing you were in law school I knew eventually you would fall in line with Democrats.

Well this is not true

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But to watch it happen has been a huge fricking disappointment

You're creating your own reality

I suggest if you do that to make one that makes you happy and not upset


*ETA: when I started law school (in 2005), I was a major DEM. After year 1, I was not. Which makes your comments that much funnier.

I haven't really changed that much since 2006 or so.
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 12:10 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36534 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:01 pm to
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He probably got 80 million legit votes, or people who showed up to vote against Trump, describe them however you like. Even dismissing a realistic fraud margin I don’t understand that many people preferring the turnip, but they did.


This is my line of thought too. Yes, there were vote harvesting, etc. that probably crossed the line; however, to think there were 7 million of more votes that were fraudulent is preposterous. I think the Covid rules this election aided in the high turnout which aided the Dems.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263218 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:05 pm to
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to install Jotato into the presidency then I wholeheartedly agree.


This is incorrect.

I didnt vote for Trump, voted third party because Donny had Alaska wrapped up.

The nation chose what they consider the lesser of two evils. Might be time for MAGA to look at its messaging and stop insulting more people than it attracts

If not, a Democrat will be in office until Donny dies.

Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22188 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:17 pm to
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Shrubber believes the 2020 GE was a referendum on Trump.


So do I. That has zero to do with your claim.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30505 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:27 pm to
I mean, it he didn’t have Alaska “wrapped up” are you insinuating you’d have voted for him instead? If correct, then what even was your point in voting for the third party candidate? I’m confused by your tactics.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263218 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:28 pm to
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it he didn’t have Alaska “wrapped up” are you insinuating you’d have voted for him instead?


Depending on the other choices.

I vote the most conservative.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21608 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:32 pm to
Rallies don’t equal votes. Hate to break it to you
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
3070 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 1:44 pm to
Just stop. Not even the Bellweather’s agree.

It was Fraud. It’s there for those who will see it.

But TDS won’t allow others to.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38520 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 2:19 pm to
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81 million Americans were on board with this?





It didn't
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63747 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 3:25 pm to
Maybe my phone isn’t giving clear pic, but I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
50127 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 4:11 pm to
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81 million by burger bearcat



No fricking way he got more than Obama or Trump. They had enthusiastic voters
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9673 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 6:52 pm to
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Explain the interest in Biden without saying Trump


You’re laying out the parameters of someone’s answer?

It may be hard for people who live in deep red states, but you simply cannot underestimate how much Trump is disliked in those purple and blues states. He gets people to the polls to vote against him.

Heck, it’s the qualities so many of his die hard supporters love about him. He trolls his opposition in a personal and visceral manner. So they react in personal and visceral way, and make sure to go out and vote against him. What dragged Biden over the finish line in’20 was the people who voted against Trump by voting for him.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
2314 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:22 pm to
It doesn’t make sense to anyone with an IQ above a ham sandwich. Joe Biden is the very definition of a lifelong politician with zero leadership abilities and hasn’t improved a single thing. His voting base consists of welfare stooges, the alphabet people, and white women. I can’t think of a better coalition of people lol
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
9143 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:15 pm to
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The media would not lie about that ya know


Yea it’s not like they lied about the Russian hoax or hunters laptop. It’s already coming out about the Fed involved in Jan 6.

The more they say this, the more you know how much they cheated.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124668 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 4:48 am to
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Many of those were simply against Trump.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24982 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 5:09 am to
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 you spend all of your civics discussion in the echo chamber that is the Poli board, I can see how this doesn't make sense to you


Has nothing to do with ballot harvesting and voting machines that change votes. Didn't the voting machines even get called out recently in a D primary election?

Naw, nothing like that.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
3284 posts
Posted on 12/4/23 at 5:17 am to
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It is almost unfathomable. 81 million Americans were on board with this?


Because you underestimate how many people despise Trump. Voting against Trump provided enough motivation to vote.
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