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re: Setting any opinions aside about Trump, I still find it truly amazing this got 81 million
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:11 am to burger bearcat
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:11 am to burger bearcat
He didn't get 81 million legitimate votes.
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:11 am to SlowFlowPro
Assuming for the sake of argument that the election was legit and many, including Republicans, voted against Trump, do you really think they would do it again after the unmitigated disaster that is the Biden presidency?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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"RINOs" occupy a large portion of the House and Senate.
MAGA occupies a very small portion of the House and Senate.
I guess I don't understand your beef. You should be thrilled.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:13 am to NineLineBind
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He got 81 million ballots.
A lot of them were just multi-counted or digitally injected. There were not 81 million ballots for the fool.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:15 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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And there’s no reason to think they won’t try to again if no one has been held accountable.
I am hoping there are enough pissed off Urbanites that will make it difficult for the usual Democrat fraud zones to do their thing.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:15 am to shrevetigertom
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do you really think they would do it again after the unmitigated disaster that is the Biden presidency?
Yes.
Trump is persona non grata. Again, we have had elections since 2020 and MAGA has been loudly rejected, especially in moderate-purple areas.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:16 am to Adajax
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I guess I don't understand your beef.
Who said anything about a "beef"
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You should be thrilled.
I'm not a traditional republican, so no.
My personal preferences have nothing to do with this discussion. Why are you trying to interject them into it?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:17 am to shrevetigertom
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Assuming for the sake of argument that the election was legit and many, including Republicans, voted against Trump, do you really think they would do it again after the unmitigated disaster that is the Biden presidency?
I don’t think the election was legit, but yes, a lot of them will. Biden is so bad I think Trump has a good chance against him, but if the DNC thinks that I don’t think Biden will be on the ballot.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:20 am to Flats
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Biden is so bad I think Trump has a good chance against him
But the election of 2022 had the same factors going for MAGA and it became an embarrassment. The red wave became a red trickle. Key losses occurred in moderate-purple areas (nationally and state-wide).
We have seen this same scenario unfold before and MAGA couldn't capitalize (and got more marginalized, some could argue).
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:20 am to Flats
quote:Exactly. There is no way they run Biden. A "medical issue" or other excuse will be given.
if the DNC thinks that I don’t think Biden will be on the ballot.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:26 am to SlowFlowPro
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But the election of 2022 had the same factors going for MAGA and it became an embarrassment.
They’ll have seen two more years of Biden. I’m not saying it’s a slam dunk or anything, I just think the needle has moved in that direction. Biden is truly awful in almost every single facet, so I don’t think a Trump/Biden contest will be a 100% referendum on Trump this time.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:27 am to SlowFlowPro
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quote: I think the 2020 GE was a brute display of how powerful the Ant Trump Consortium is and how miserably dumb 81 million Americans are.
So you agree it was a referendum on Trump. And he lost.
It appears you are fine with the major institutions (who are controlled by Globalists and cultural Marxists) deciding who our presidents are. You're not alone, I've seen several others in this thread who believe the MSM, Corporations, academia, Hollywood/pop culture influencers, etc. should be the ones deciding who the president will be.
You are part of the Anti Trump Consortium.....congratulations.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:27 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I don't think the issue was "Maga." People just rejected some poor candidates. I think the Maga thing is a creation of the media and their partners in the Democrat party, making something anyone would agree with (who is against making America great?) into a perjorative. And apparently it works on some people.
But the election of 2022 had the same factors going for MAGA and it became an embarrassment. The red wave became a red trickle. Key losses occurred in moderate-purple areas (nationally and state-wide).
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 10:28 am
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:28 am to Bass Tiger
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You're not alone, I've seen several others in this thread who believe the MSM, Corporations, academia, Hollywood/pop culture influencers, etc. should be the ones deciding who the president will be.
Really? Who?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:28 am to Bass Tiger
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It appears you are fine with
Where did I state my personal opinion?
Why are you trying to interject your perception of my unstated personal opinion into this discussion?
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You are part of the Anti Trump Consortium
Again, when did I say anything about that ITT?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 10:29 am to idlewatcher
I've always found it odd that the Trump cultists never question Trump's vote totals. Are we supposed to believe that someone who came into office as the most hated president in history, ballooned the national debt in the middle of shutting down the country, and ran on telling people to not vote early somehow increased his vote total? Doesn't make sense.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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Many of those were simply against Trump. Trump is going to face the same issues in 2024. Lots of traditional Republicans will refuse to vote for him in the general. That's why we keep seeing MAGA rejected over and over again in elections across the country, and why it has such a small foothold in actual elected positions nationally.
The people that think he actually won the last election ignore this reality and think he has a chance to win in 2024. It most likely won’t be nearly as close at it was in 2020. I know multiple people who vote Republican but will not vote for Trump.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Knowing you were in law school I knew eventually you would fall in line with Democrats. But to watch it happen has been a huge fricking disappointment
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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Many of those were simply against Trump.
And those that voted "simply against Trump" are just as complicit in this countries demise as those that voted for FJB out of conviction.
Elections and consequences etc...
Posted on 12/3/23 at 11:40 am to burger bearcat
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