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re: Setting any opinions aside about Trump, I still find it truly amazing this got 81 million
Posted on 12/4/23 at 10:42 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 12/4/23 at 10:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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It can't all be fraud.
No. Some votes were legit. Has someone claimed it was "all" fraud?
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Posted on 12/4/23 at 10:43 am to Ray Ray Rodman
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think MAGA people are more interested pissing liberals off than actually conservative policies and actually governing America. They just want a fight,
no matter what it's about.
This is incorrect. Biden is pure trash and his policies have hurt America. If anything my vote for Trump might be a vote against Biden than for Trump. I'd gladly vote for Vivek or Desantis too. If they had no plan or policy, that's still an upgrade from this administration/Dem/lib policy which has been terrible for the country.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 10:44 am to Steadyhands
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You can hate Trump all you want, but is your hatred for Trump really greater than your love for your country? This is the part I can't grasp, will there be that many selfish, America hating people in 2024?
I've seen more America hating from the MAGA crowd the past few years than BLM.
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There isn't a way to rationalize continuing this shite show as a vote against Trump in 2024.
People. Hate. Trump.
Also the abortion stuff may have lost the suburban, moderate-Republican female vote for a generation (maybe in perpetuity).
If Trump's stain loses that demo, the GOP is fricked moving forward. The GOP can't win major elections without suburban women.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 10:46 am to NC_Tigah
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Has someone claimed it was "all" fraud?
Implying California relied on fraud and millions of votes were fraudulent is the reference to "it can't all be fraud".
Like I said, a hyper-targeted 5 or 6-figure amount in crucial areas? Possible.
Millions? Not possible.
Biden got 80M+ legit votes under any rational scenario.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 10:47 am to Steadyhands
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Do they have no line/limit?
I wonder that as well when it comes to how people view Trump.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 10:49 am to Steadyhands
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Trump all you want, but is your hatred for Trump really greater than your love for your country?
It appears your love of Trump is obvioulsly greater than your love of your Country...
Posted on 12/4/23 at 10:51 am to Ray Ray Rodman
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I wonder that as well when it comes to how people view Trump.
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It appears your love of Trump is obvioulsly greater than your love of your Country...
Y'ALL HAVE DONE IT NOW
Posted on 12/4/23 at 10:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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You can hate Trump all you want, but is your hatred for Trump really greater than your love for your country? This is the part I can't grasp, will there be that many selfish, America hating people in 2024?
I've seen more America hating from the MAGA crowd the past few years than BLM.
That's a fairly strong statement. Blm is pure trash against America, and borderline being a terrorist organization. You claim MAGA is worse?
Can you give an example?
I'm not sure why there's still talk on abortion. The law has been fixed to leave it to the states, they should cease all further talk about it at the national level.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:00 am to Steadyhands
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Blm is pure trash against America, and borderline being a terrorist organization. You claim MAGA is worse?
No, because that's not what I said
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Can you give an example?
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And these people will be responsible for the end of the republic, assuming it's not already too late to be saved.
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There's a lot I don't like about Trump but I don't see another candidate on the horizon that isn't the same bought and paid for Republicrat politician like the other 537 elected politicians that have been working against the American people for decades.
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i find it truly this country proved to be nothing but pussies when the election was clearly illegitimate and when covid was used to completely make everyone bend over.
Those are "milk toast" (as Trump would say) comments. Go into an abortion or LGBTQ thread and you'll see people wishing for the downfall of America.
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The law has been fixed to leave it to the states, they should cease all further talk about it at the national level.
It's still in play, nationally. Congress just has to act.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:01 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Of course it's possible. Vote harvesting under CV19 auspices rendered it so.
Not possible.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:01 am to Flats
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Do they have no line/limit?
I wonder that as well when it comes to how people view Trump.
That's fair on a personality basis. I don't really give a rats arse about things like that. I was strictly speaking on a policy based view. What has Biden done, and is pushing, that would make someone want to vote for him again?
My example: this hard push for EVs/wind/solar and a hard stop on ICE/non-renewables. Trump isn't against EVs/renewable, he's in favor of having all of it, as am I. That supports everyone, not just some of the population.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:03 am to NC_Tigah
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Vote harvesting under CV19 auspices rendered it so.
Almost exclusively legal for the 2020 election. Legal votes aren't fraudulent votes.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:03 am to SlowFlowPro
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Blm is pure trash against America, and borderline being a terrorist organization. You claim MAGA is worse?
No, because that's not what I said ?
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Can you give an example?
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And these people will be responsible for the end of the republic, assuming it's not already too late to be saved.
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There's a lot I don't like about Trump but I don't see another candidate on the horizon that isn't the same bought and paid for Republicrat politician like the other 537 elected politicians that have been working against the American people for decades.
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i find it truly this country proved to be nothing but pussies when the election was clearly illegitimate and when covid was used to completely make everyone bend over.
Those are "milk toast" (as Trump would say) comments. Go into an abortion or LGBTQ thread and you'll see people wishing for the downfall of America.
How are these examples of MAGA being worse than BLM? These aren't even examples.
Try again.
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 11:05 am
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:04 am to Steadyhands
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How are these examples of MAGA being worse than BLM?
Nobody said MAGA was worse than BLM, brother.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:06 am to burger bearcat
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Setting any opinions aside about Trump, I still find it truly amazing this got 81 million
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:08 am to Steadyhands
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What has Biden done, and is pushing, that would make someone want to vote for him again?
Nothing, but that's the point of the topic. Very few people voted for him the first time, they were voting against Trump. This time Biden will 4 years under his belt that he can't hide from, so it will be a referendum on both of them as opposed to 99% Trump.
No question Biden has created a lot of "not Biden" votes, it's just a question of how many and if he'll be the one on the ballot. And has Trump enticed any of the people who left their presidential ballot blank or vehemently voted against him the first time to view him differently 4 years later?
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:09 am to Ray Ray Rodman
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Trump all you want, but is your hatred for Trump really greater than your love for your country?
It appears your love of Trump is obvioulsly greater than your love of your Country...
I vote for who is available to vote for within reason...Trump, DeSantis, Vivek, would be fine. None are perfect, but far better than Biden and any other potential dem/lib option like Newsom.
I gave a policy example, why don't you provide an example from dems of good policy for America.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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How are these examples of MAGA being worse than BLM?
Nobody said MAGA was worse than BLM, brother.
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I've seen more America hating from the MAGA crowd the past few years than BLM.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:18 am to Steadyhands
Wow. Drop some real talk in here about policy and you Libs/Dems scatter like roaches when the lights come on.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:24 am to Steadyhands
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I've seen more America hating from the MAGA crowd the past few years than BLM.
Nothing in that statement claims either MAGA or BLM is "worse" than each other
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