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Posted on 7/14/25 at 7:41 am to Friendly Satan
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Trump, please fire these two worthless fricks
Kash was on Rogan's podcast for 3 hours a couple weeks ago. Did you listen to the whole thing?
Posted on 7/14/25 at 7:46 am to GumboPot
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Kash and Bongino have been consistent this entire time.
Is this a joke? They were the top guys saying this was a cover up 6 months ago. Now they look like prisoners saying he killed himself.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 7:52 am to Schleynole
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Is this a joke? They were the top guys saying this was a cover up 6 months ago.
6 months ago they were not in positions where they had access to FBI files.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 7:54 am to GumboPot
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6 months ago they were not in positions where they had access to FBI files.
6 months ago nobody had pulled them into a room and said "here's what's going to happen."
Posted on 7/14/25 at 7:56 am to GumboPot
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6 months ago they were not in positions where they had access to FBI files.
Kash patel said the FBI director has the Epstein files and he is protecting the people on that list. Now he's the fbi director and he's saying there is no list.
He was either lying then or he's lying now. Either way he's a liar
Posted on 7/14/25 at 7:59 am to FearlessFreep
I voted for the guy, but no one is above criticism
I don’t get how the MAGAs on here defend him when he went on every podcast saying it’s coming out, Kash did as well. And even Pam said she’s looking at it on her desk and just wait until you see what she’s seeing
And then just like that, it never happened. Everyone is saying he just committed suicide and Trump is calling us idiots for even bringing it up.
Kash sounded like an idiot on Rogan saying we never had anything and it’s cut and dry he killed himself. No evidence whatsoever otherwise
I’m genuinely asking, who are they protecting?
I don’t get how the MAGAs on here defend him when he went on every podcast saying it’s coming out, Kash did as well. And even Pam said she’s looking at it on her desk and just wait until you see what she’s seeing
And then just like that, it never happened. Everyone is saying he just committed suicide and Trump is calling us idiots for even bringing it up.
Kash sounded like an idiot on Rogan saying we never had anything and it’s cut and dry he killed himself. No evidence whatsoever otherwise
I’m genuinely asking, who are they protecting?
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:01 am to GumboPot
I want to review why people are skeptical:
Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell had a publishing/media/entertainment empire including the Daily Mirror, the London Daily News, Prentice Hall, MacMillan, MTV Europe, Pergamon Press, the Oxford United FC, etc. He was a major player, not unlike a mid-career Rupert Murdoch. He was also a Mossad agent. Among other things he absolutely did was getting "manipulated" intelligence software into Soviet hands at the behest of Mossad. He was the nexus for interactions between MI6, KGB and Mossad. This is not reasonably in dispute. He also "killed himself" on a yacht he named Lady Ghislaine. He is buried with full honors in Israel. Yes, he was a Jewish war hero fighting the Nazis, but he was also a lifelong (at least from 1948 onward) agent of Mossad.
Epstein - with NO credentials - went from pervy prep school teacher to Wall Street, ended up being a key fiancial advisor to Edgar Bronfman, head of Seagram. Now, the Bronfman clan is a Canadian Jewish family (hailing from the Russian Imperial era) and Edgar is the head of one of the major American branches (6 or 7 of his children were born in New York). How a college dropout ends up advising this "billionaire in a family of billionaires" while still in his 20s is mysterious enough. However, when one looks not at this extended Bronfman clan, but to Edgar Sr.'s own children, not one but TWO of his daughters were deeply involved in the NXIVM/DOS sex cult scandal.
The only remaining questions are: Who was actually pulling Epstein's strings? It was likely Mossad through Maxwell. Robert (a known Mossad asset) introduced Epstein to his daughter. It isn't any more complicated than that.
So, going back to "the list" - at a certain point, "the list" is irrelevant. Yes, it might be weaponized, but it is already clear that the firewall is at Epstein and Maxwell. Literally nothing will happen to anyone else except, perhaps, reputational slurs in partisan media outlets (both sides). But to pretend that this was just a rich guy getting his jollies off, illegally, with the help of his girlfriend is willful blindness (at best).
Period.
Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell had a publishing/media/entertainment empire including the Daily Mirror, the London Daily News, Prentice Hall, MacMillan, MTV Europe, Pergamon Press, the Oxford United FC, etc. He was a major player, not unlike a mid-career Rupert Murdoch. He was also a Mossad agent. Among other things he absolutely did was getting "manipulated" intelligence software into Soviet hands at the behest of Mossad. He was the nexus for interactions between MI6, KGB and Mossad. This is not reasonably in dispute. He also "killed himself" on a yacht he named Lady Ghislaine. He is buried with full honors in Israel. Yes, he was a Jewish war hero fighting the Nazis, but he was also a lifelong (at least from 1948 onward) agent of Mossad.
Epstein - with NO credentials - went from pervy prep school teacher to Wall Street, ended up being a key fiancial advisor to Edgar Bronfman, head of Seagram. Now, the Bronfman clan is a Canadian Jewish family (hailing from the Russian Imperial era) and Edgar is the head of one of the major American branches (6 or 7 of his children were born in New York). How a college dropout ends up advising this "billionaire in a family of billionaires" while still in his 20s is mysterious enough. However, when one looks not at this extended Bronfman clan, but to Edgar Sr.'s own children, not one but TWO of his daughters were deeply involved in the NXIVM/DOS sex cult scandal.
The only remaining questions are: Who was actually pulling Epstein's strings? It was likely Mossad through Maxwell. Robert (a known Mossad asset) introduced Epstein to his daughter. It isn't any more complicated than that.
So, going back to "the list" - at a certain point, "the list" is irrelevant. Yes, it might be weaponized, but it is already clear that the firewall is at Epstein and Maxwell. Literally nothing will happen to anyone else except, perhaps, reputational slurs in partisan media outlets (both sides). But to pretend that this was just a rich guy getting his jollies off, illegally, with the help of his girlfriend is willful blindness (at best).
Period.
This post was edited on 7/14/25 at 10:01 am
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:02 am to dallastiger55
Look at how absurd this pivot is that you accurately described:
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And then just like that, it never happened. Everyone is saying he just committed suicide and Trump is calling us idiots for even bringing it up.
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I’m genuinely asking, who are they protecting?
Someone(s) or something big enough to make a US government do such an about face.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:08 am to GumboPot
Trump does not want to lose the slim Congressional majority when Republican voters can those who are implicated to varying degrees in having sex with teens. Nor does he want to dismantle the Intel Institutions which he needs to monitor the Commies and Islamists. Or totally expose Israel as manipulating our Politicos with blackmail. Anybody who thinks Mossad would not be neck deep is a naive fool, as they would be malfeasant in doing their job. He’ll, they have high-up Ops in Iran’s top inner circle.
Trump should expose it ALL, and go from there. But that’s an uneducated opinion.
Trump should expose it ALL, and go from there. But that’s an uneducated opinion.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:13 am to Scruffy
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The entire scandal exists because the administration said that all of that existed.
They weren't all in the administration when they started saying it. Bongino was a fricking media personality when he started saying it, writing the checks that now he can't cash.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:13 am to LSUSkip
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am, but at the same time, I think they might have bit off a bit more than they could chew with it. Its one of those things where you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. Once they release it, that's it, everybody has to deal with the fallout rather than trying to mitigate as much as possible before releasing it. My opinion is that there are some Republican senators or congressmen on it, maybe even some governors. Gotta get the facts straight because just being on the flight log doesn't mean anything if it's just once.
This is what we voted for. DRAIN THE SWAMP.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:21 am to GumboPot
Does anyone actually believe DOJ has a definite “list” of people who definitely abused young girls but were not prosecuted? Why would there be such a “list?
There may be names in a file of people who came up during investigations who may have been associated with Epstein in some way, either business or socially.
But those names wouldn’t be released if there wasn’t evidence to support a prosecution…
There may be names in a file of people who came up during investigations who may have been associated with Epstein in some way, either business or socially.
But those names wouldn’t be released if there wasn’t evidence to support a prosecution…
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:24 am to Schleynole
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He was either lying then
He wasn't lying then. He was lied to.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:25 am to Flats
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6 months ago nobody had pulled them into a room and said "here's what's going to happen."
Yeah, and they obviously didn't pull in Bondi.
My entire point is Kash and Dan were not on the same page as Bondi. Kash and Dan shifted from campaign rhetoric based on what they said they have seen in the FBI. We might not like that answer but the answer does give them plausible deniably. Bondi never shifted from campaign rhetoric until few days ago.
There was mixed messaging coming out of the DOJ/FBI.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:28 am to GumboPot
They based a portion of Trump's reelection campaign on the Epstein files only to come out and say nah it was just a hoax guys
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:28 am to Scruffy
3. Trump is using it as leverage.
4. Israel intelligence, et al are involved and the fallout would be chaos for everyone.
4. Israel intelligence, et al are involved and the fallout would be chaos for everyone.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:31 am to GumboPot
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We might not like that answer but the answer does give them plausible deniably.
I don't find it plausible.
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There was mixed messaging coming out of the DOJ/FBI.
There is mixed messaging coming from this administration. Can we at least stop trying to firewall Trump from his own admin? He's jumped into this feet first, he's on top of it, he's calling the shots.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:33 am to RougeDawg
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4. Israel intelligence, et al are involved and the fallout would be chaos for everyone.
If chaos rids us of compromised politicians, then chaos is what is needed here.
Posted on 7/14/25 at 8:35 am to Ace Midnight
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The only remaining questions are: Who was actually pulling Epstein's strings?
That’s all I want to know. Who was he working for and if there’s nothing to worry about then show us that there’s nothing to worry about.
It appears to me that Epstein was a tool of some powerful people and if that’s true, they don’t just roll over after their pawn is dead. They find a new pawn.
I think the Epstein matter is either an issue of national security or it’s a nothing burger. We deserve to know either way
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